Endura 4

Before you get an Endura I suggest you look at my short video. I had my endura for a couple of months with little use. Definitely not hard use. I was using it to open a package and I heard a "click" within the knife. Now, the knife will not stay locked and will unlock with a bit of pressure.

You want to know the best part? I sent it to spyderco for them to look at it and they told me that I tried to disassemble it and I broke the locking mechanism. They wouldn't fix it without a $25 fee. I know I will probly get flamed by all the fanboys but at the time I was a fanboy too with several high dollar spyderco knives like the military/ paramilitary. Spydercos quality of their foreign made line and their very poor customer service turned me off. When I told spyderco I wouldn't pay to fix a knife I did not disassemble, they had the nerve to put a notch on the blade to mark it as a defective. Knife. I know there are people out there who have flawless enduras/delicas but mine sure wasn't.

http://youtu.be/CExjrutu8RQ
 
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jesse2205, seriously you should post this in the Spyderco forum. Sal I'm sure would want to know.
 
Yo Mama said:
jesse2205, seriously you should post this in the Spyderco forum. Sal I'm sure would want to know.
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I have been to the spyderco forum and sal has seen the video and heard my side of the story. He would not repair the knife under warranty. Sure, $25 is not really a big deal, but it's the principle of it. A company should stand by their products. If this was a Busse combat blade or a ESEE blade this would be a non issue. I really don't want to start that whole process again because I was emotionally damaged as an avid spyderco fan lol. I sold all my spyderco blades (well over $1500 worth) and swore not to buy spyderco again. For them to pretty much tell me I'm lying to them is pretty offensive in my book. Having said all this, I did not have any problems with the spyderco product line made in the USA, it's the Japanese stuff I had problems with.
 
jesse2205 said:
Before you get an Endura I suggest you look at my short video. I had my endura for a couple of months with little use. Definitely not hard use. I was using it to open a package and I heard a "click" within the knife. Now, the knife will not stay locked and will unlock with a bit of pressure.

You want to know the best part? I sent it to spyderco for them to look at it and they told me that I tried to disassemble it and I broke the locking mechanism. They wouldn't fix it without a $25 fee. I know I will probly get flamed by all the fanboys but at the time I was a fanboy too with several high dollar spyderco knives like the military/ paramilitary. Spydercos quality of their foreign made line and their very poor customer service turned me off. When I told spyderco I wouldn't pay to fix a knife I did not disassemble, they had the nerve to put a notch on the blade to mark it as a defective. Knife. I know there are people out there who have flawless enduras/delicas but mine sure wasn't.

http://youtu.be/CExjrutu8RQ
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That's not cool at all. There is a part of the lock system that relies on two buttons (for lack of a better term) that are inside the scales (frn in my knives case) and so I could see a failure as a possibility. Those buttons (or tabs or whatever you want to call them) are under a lot of pressure, however I still think that the design is sound and that failures are probably very rare.

I'm not stuck on any one brand (although if pressed I guess Spyderco would have to be my favorite) but I don't really care for lockbacks anyway because I prefer one handed operation.
 
I'm not stuck on any one brand (although if pressed I guess Spyderco would have to be my favorite) but I don't really care for lockbacks anyway because I prefer one handed operation.
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I've never had difficulty opening or closing my Enduras one handed. I've had surgeries on both arms/shoulders ( one at a time) making them inoperative for a week or two each time and using one hand only to open and close didn't slow me down. I wish everything else in life was that easy. :)

Joe
 
jesse2205 said:
I have been to the spyderco forum and sal has seen the video and heard my side of the story. He would not repair the knife under warranty. Sure, $25 is not really a big deal, but it's the principle of it. A company should stand by their products. If this was a Busse combat blade or a ESEE blade this would be a non issue. I really don't want to start that whole process again because I was emotionally damaged as an avid spyderco fan lol. I sold all my spyderco blades (well over $1500 worth) and swore not to buy spyderco again. For them to pretty much tell me I'm lying to them is pretty offensive in my book. Having said all this, I did not have any problems with the spyderco product line made in the USA, it's the Japanese stuff I had problems with.
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''Emotionally damaged''? over a folding knife? You might consider a wider focus toward life in general. I sent Spyderco an Endura that simply had some tolerance slop that annoyed me. It was inspected and found to be within tolerance at the factory, but they replaced it for me anyway because I wasn't satisfied. To top it off I got a different colour as my choice AND ....................... I forgot to enclose a return shipping fee, which was minimal anyway. I was treated above what I would consider normal service from any factory. And the knife was shipped all the way up here to friggin Canada, for free because of my screw up. I have nothing but the highest respect for Spyderco.
 
i have a endura stainless model it is a good knife for a edc role tuff enough. Personally i would spend a little more money and get a manix. I like the look and feel of it better. But thats just me.
 
The Mastiff said:
I've never had difficulty opening or closing my Enduras one handed. I've had surgeries on both arms/shoulders ( one at a time) making them inoperative for a week or two each time and using one hand only to open and close didn't slow me down. I wish everything else in life was that easy. :)

Joe
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I agree. Endura's are easy (and even fun) to open and close one-handed.
 
Brasso3 said:
Then you've been lucky. And the spine lock is weak and has been proven over and over again to fail at precisely that type of impact. As for the liners, I'll take your word for it. They aren't visible.
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Proven by whom, exactly? Lockback folders have been used forever and a day and yet these forums and others aren't exactly overrun with folks missing fingers or comparing scars from frequent lock failures. The fact you failed to notice the steel liners which run the length of the scales on the Endura and can be seen with a quick glance says a lot though.

Personally, I have carried an Endura Wave for years and have used it for cutting, prying, digging, chipping through ice and many times it has been stabbed into a surface while I'm busy with something else and not once in all those times has the Endura's lock failed me. I've put the Endurance through its paces and so have a number of friends and yours is the first time I've ever heard or read of it being poorly constructed. It might not be a pretty blade but it is easily the equal in terms of toughness to any other folder I've used or held.
 
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Own 3 Enduras already, I just love it!

I hope one day I can collect all Endura4s in different colors and handle material...
 
Get one and you will like it. You might even end up buying a second one because they are a great knife.
 
Well my normal edc is an endura with the zdp189 blade
I have had it since they first came out without a problem

On a different note I contacted Spyderco once about an issue with my military and was very disappointed by their lack of customer service

I have five Spyderco now but I am not sure if I would buy another new one
I like the knives just not the customer service
 
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