Endura saber grind or flat grind?

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I want an Endura.

I'm wondering if the new flat grind Endura is as good as the older saber grind that I am familiar with.

Is it as good for a larger heavier duty knife? Not so much for PRYING, but just for things like twisting in wood or some such? Not RADICAL, but incidental woodcraft use.

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I have one and two Krein regrinds, all E4's and D4's. I wouldn't pry anything and would be real careful twisting aggressively at all. Do I think they would stand up to some mild lateral force, probably, but I don't with these knives. That said, for cutting, they crush the saber grinds by an extreme margin. Tip strength, not their forte, however. Good luck.

Pete
 
My G-10 Endura measured 0.021" thick behind the edge bevel. Not anorexic, but thin enough to be damaged by excessive lateral force. If you aren't used to using thin blades (this one is still pretty thick by my standards) you would probably be better off with one of the saber grind FRN models. The flat grind cuts much better, but it won't stand up to twisting as well as the saber grind.
 
The new flat grind is a better slicer, and I love it for what it is. I think the saber grind is better for harder use and has a much stronger tip.
 
I screwed up and got the endura in zdp189, and then picked up the flat grind in vg-10. The difference in edge holding abilities between the two steels is very apparent. I am having a hard time getting very excited about the flat grind because of this. I do think that the flat grind cuts better, but it does not stay with it as long as the zpd 189. That being said, I love the endura - don't think I would do anything about the saber grind - it works fine for me. I do like the quality of the flat grind - its a nice hunk of knife.
 
stevewest said:
I screwed up and got the endura in zdp189, and then picked up the flat grind in vg-10. The difference in edge holding abilities between the two steels is very apparent. I am having a hard time getting very excited about the flat grind because of this. I do think that the flat grind cuts better, but it does not stay with it as long as the zpd 189. That being said, I love the endura - don't think I would do anything about the saber grind - it works fine for me. I do like the quality of the flat grind - its a nice hunk of knife.
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Send that ZDP Endura to Tom Krein and have him flat grind it to 0.010" behind the edge if you want to learn just how good that steel really is. ;) I haven't carried my saber grind Enduras since mine got back with that treatment.
 
I've got a couple of old Gerber folders with flat grinds but I like the saber Endura for EDC. Broke a Swiss Army Knive when I was a kid, so the saber grind feels good to me.
 
For normal use, I love the FFG Endura, the Foliage Green slabs look great on it also.

RicKJ
 
Anything with the name "Endura" on it will be great---the saber grind gives the knife more strength, while I like the flat ground G10 model for slicing and more intricate cuts. I think it is the more refined of the two in the realm of edge geometry.

Excellent knives, all around. Congratulations on your Wave. :)
 
I agree with yablanowitz. Send it to Tom Krein and you won't be disappointed. I bought the ZDP E4 and D4 and was not overwhelmed to say the least. Once they came back however the D4 is now one of my favorites. It also makes keeping it sharp less tasking than before when it had that very thick edge. This steel and flat grinds are made for one another. Good luck.
 
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