Epiphanies.

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Life seems to be made of those moments where the lightbulb goes off over your head. You get the sudden insight, usually too late to avoid large sums of money or time spent on something. An insight that blows away the mists and fog that affect judgment. Like the sudden epiphany that you're being conned, and you really don't need that item the salesman is pushing with the one year of no interest.

Like SAK's.

I started out knife life with a Boy Scout knife dad gave me in the occasion I joined a local Boy Scout troop. In my pre-teen years and on, I got used to having a few tools on my pocket knife. In truth, it was handy as all heck. Then I enlisted in the army and they, in essence, gave me a Boy Scout knife. The famed M-L-K-808, also known as the 'demo' knife because they were in most the demo kits. Simple an all stainless steel U.S. made Pioneer like knife. It served me well and did everything needed.

Then, somewhere along the way I became a knife nut. It didn't start that way, but I saw and handled a Randall knife. Then I had to have a Randall. Then I got another Randall. Then suddenly my boy scout knife didn't seem enough, so I got a Buck 110 to go only belt. Out of the army I got off the beam, chasing the grail knife, the next shiny object of my cult worship obsession. Other custom knifes, all kinds of pocket knives like sodbusters, stockmen, barrows. Oh I still had a SAK around. Just too handy to leave home, but it was regulated to the pack, while the more glorious knives filled the bill. Of course I found myself going into my pack to get the SAK very often.

But then I woke up. It was one of those cartoon moments where the lightbulb goes off over the characters head. In this case the character was me. It was like coming out of a temporary insanity or fever, and looking around wondering where the hell am I and how did I get here? Somehow, I had forsaken all the common sense wisdom my dad, scoutmaster, Uncles, had taught me. It made me look back on years of experience and realize that had never used those big heavy choppers, or expensive knives for much that my old Camillus demo knife or pioneer would have done. In fact, I never had one unexpected problem that the SAK didn't handle. Backpackingtrips up and down the Appalachian Trail, canoe camping, kayak camping, whatever, the SAK was the star. In fact, because of some old service injuries, most the time I left the big heavy stuff home because I was doing semi ultralight backpacking. Hard to go with a 40 pound pack when your limping down the trail on a cane. Had to get the pack weight down to 25 pounds if not less. I did backpacking trips with just a SAK, dealt with a broken down motorscooter on a deserted dirt road in the middle nowhere, a trolling motor on a canoe at the far end of a long and winding lake that had the control come apart, dealing with my friends wife breaking an ankle a winter morning hike in the snow and making a litter to carry her out on with an old pioneer. Looking back on it, the Randall's and other high end knives didn't do jack. It was like 1989 or 90 that I sold off all my customs and high end knives. But I kept the Opinels, a few of my old traditional pocket knives, and never looked back and carried mostly a SAK of some kind. A tinker, my old war horse Wenger SI or beat up old red pioneer with the old cross.

Now, as a bonafide old fart, a certified member of the white beard brigade, I've had yet another epiphany. I left Texas on our visit to the daughter's family here in Mission Viejo California with nothing but a classic, the Wenger SI, and a Leatherman squirt. I didn't take any of my 'other' knives like my Opinel's, the Christy, the Schrade, for a reason. I've reached the mind state now, that I don't really need anything but a SAK or small multitool. If I need more knife than a SAK will give me, maybe it time I took a lesson form those jungle guides we had on that trip we took in the Costa Rica rain forest many years ago. They all carried a small machete in a leather sheath and a SAK in a belt pouch with a Bic lighter. The machete handled all the heavy duty use around camp, and the small jobs got done with a SAK. It worked for them very well.

I think when I get home, I will do a final downsize, and just get rid of all non SAK pocket knives.
 
As another member of the white beard brigade, I've been down the same road (literally - Appalachain Trail), my carry a SAK Champion C in my backpack, a 3.5" puukko in with the canteen and a SAK Tinker in my pocket with a tether to my pants belt. Have carried a Tinker (on second one, third waiting) for about 30 years. My old machete is for yard work. Can't get rid of ALL my other knives - there are degrees of love; but SAKs are my most loved.;)
 
I think when I get home, I will do a final downsize, and just get rid of all non SAK pocket knives.

You clearly don't miss the non-SAK knives. And if they also do not have any other sentimental/emotional value to you, I'd get rid of them if I were you. Just keep what you value for one or the other reason and get rid of the rest. What good is a never-used knife in drawer?

In their hearts, all of those with expensive collections of 'prestige knives', know that a humble SAK will always be the better solution. They live in fantasyland. You live in the real world. Be proud and happy with just your humble SAK's. They truly are the finest pocket tools money can buy.
 
Life seems to be made of those moments where the lightbulb goes off over your head. You get the sudden insight, usually too late to avoid large sums of money or time spent on something. An insight that blows away the mists and fog that affect judgment. Like the sudden epiphany that you're being conned, and you really don't need that item the salesman is pushing with the one year of no interest.

Like SAK's.

I started out knife life with a Boy Scout knife dad gave me in the occasion I joined a local Boy Scout troop. In my pre-teen years and on, I got used to having a few tools on my pocket knife. In truth, it was handy as all heck. Then I enlisted in the army and they, in essence, gave me a Boy Scout knife. The famed M-L-K-808, also known as the 'demo' knife because they were in most the demo kits. Simple an all stainless steel U.S. made Pioneer like knife. It served me well and did everything needed.

Then, somewhere along the way I became a knife nut. It didn't start that way, but I saw and handled a Randall knife. Then I had to have a Randall. Then I got another Randall. Then suddenly my boy scout knife didn't seem enough, so I got a Buck 110 to go only belt. Out of the army I got off the beam, chasing the grail knife, the next shiny object of my cult worship obsession. Other custom knifes, all kinds of pocket knives like sodbusters, stockmen, barrows. Oh I still had a SAK around. Just too handy to leave home, but it was regulated to the pack, while the more glorious knives filled the bill. Of course I found myself going into my pack to get the SAK very often.

But then I woke up. It was one of those cartoon moments where the lightbulb goes off over the characters head. In this case the character was me. It was like coming out of a temporary insanity or fever, and looking around wondering where the hell am I and how did I get here? Somehow, I had forsaken all the common sense wisdom my dad, scoutmaster, Uncles, had taught me. It made me look back on years of experience and realize that had never used those big heavy choppers, or expensive knives for much that my old Camillus demo knife or pioneer would have done. In fact, I never had one unexpected problem that the SAK didn't handle. Backpackingtrips up and down the Appalachian Trail, canoe camping, kayak camping, whatever, the SAK was the star. In fact, because of some old service injuries, most the time I left the big heavy stuff home because I was doing semi ultralight backpacking. Hard to go with a 40 pound pack when your limping down the trail on a cane. Had to get the pack weight down to 25 pounds if not less. I did backpacking trips with just a SAK, dealt with a broken down motorscooter on a deserted dirt road in the middle nowhere, a trolling motor on a canoe at the far end of a long and winding lake that had the control come apart, dealing with my friends wife breaking an ankle a winter morning hike in the snow and making a litter to carry her out on with an old pioneer. Looking back on it, the Randall's and other high end knives didn't do jack. It was like 1989 or 90 that I sold off all my customs and high end knives. But I kept the Opinels, a few of my old traditional pocket knives, and never looked back and carried mostly a SAK of some kind. A tinker, my old war horse Wenger SI or beat up old red pioneer with the old cross.

Now, as a bonafide old fart, a certified member of the white beard brigade, I've had yet another epiphany. I left Texas on our visit to the daughter's family here in Mission Viejo California with nothing but a classic, the Wenger SI, and a Leatherman squirt. I didn't take any of my 'other' knives like my Opinel's, the Christy, the Schrade, for a reason. I've reached the mind state now, that I don't really need anything but a SAK or small multitool. If I need more knife than a SAK will give me, maybe it time I took a lesson form those jungle guides we had on that trip we took in the Costa Rica rain forest many years ago. They all carried a small machete in a leather sheath and a SAK in a belt pouch with a Bic lighter. The machete handled all the heavy duty use around camp, and the small jobs got done with a SAK. It worked for them very well.

I think when I get home, I will do a final downsize, and just get rid of all non SAK pocket knives.
That's good for you and I'm happy for you. But I still like and carry something other than a Swiss Army Knife most of the time. However, it's a rare day that an SAK is very far. Always as close as my truck, or the keychain to my wife's jeep. Flying - I think I will add one to the checked bag list.
 
Jackknife, I though I remember you saying that your arthritis was making using the SAKs difficult? Have you found a way around that?
 
I think when I get home, I will do a final downsize, and just get rid of all non SAK pocket knives.
Even the Camillus made Buck 301 you had to talk (bribe?) your son into giving back?!?😳

I am not strong enough to pass on all my not a SAK/Scout knives yet. My nephew is going to have to wait until I'm gone to get most of them.
The cutlery I'm "taking with me" are my SAK Hercules, Evo Grip 14, GEC 838218 Dixie Stockman, 852211 Harness Jack, 141122 Barlow, standard Buck 301, maybe the '18 BF 301, a 2 blade Barlow, Buck 110, the Toferner, and Leatherman Charge+ TTI ... at a minimum ... 😁
 
Jackknife, I though I remember you saying that your arthritis was making using the SAKs difficult? Have you found a way around that?

The small lobster designs like the classic and executive because of the light spring tension are easy, and the alox SAK's I use a tiny jewelers file to round off the inner corner of the tang so as to lighten the opening pull. Plus the alox gives a better grip for senior citizen fingers. They are all modded for the lighter pull.
 
+1 Exec love, ever since I got that Executive back from Victorinox that I made that thread about, and started carrying around, I've found it to be the perfect light SAK, 84 makes me wanna carry 91, but this is perfect, and the orange peeler is not useless as many say! It's a package opener, it's anything you want it to be!
 
Even the Camillus made Buck 301 you had to talk (bribe?) your son into giving back?!?😳

I am not strong enough to pass on all my not a SAK/Scout knives yet. My nephew is going to have to wait until I'm gone to get most of them.
The cutlery I'm "taking with me" are my SAK Hercules, Evo Grip 14, GEC 838218 Dixie Stockman, 852211 Harness Jack, 141122 Barlow, standard Buck 301, maybe the '18 BF 301, a 2 blade Barlow, Buck 110, the Toferner, and Leatherman Charge+ TTI ... at a minimum ... 😁

My old Buck 301 is with my grandson, Ryan, in a shadow box with few pics of me and Karen. Ryan is the self appointed family historian, and he even has my father's old Case peanut with a pics of him and a few words about his great granddad. My son Matt, has my old Ruger standard model that I taught him to shoot with.

After a certain age, its all just stuff. As an old man, I really don't need that much. Now when Karen and I travel, instead of the back country, we travel with a senior tour group and enjoy the tourist train around Yellowstone and Yosemite. And the tout bus let us off right at the entrance to the Colosseum in Rome when we were there. Any little sharp blade will do to slice some nice cheese and fresh bread warm from the oven in the sidewalk cafe. Karen has a waiter in her purse to open the wine with.
 
After a certain age, its all just stuff.
I tend to agree with that statement. In my mid-40's I am already experiencing a lot of it. A decade or so ago, I was into nice old school 'automatic' watches. These days, I no longer care. I just need something reliable to tell the time. So a plastic digital Casio or Timex is just fine. Reliable, lightweight and it doesn't cost an arm and a leg to buy. And no crying should it break. Same goes for SAK's.
 
I tend to agree with that statement. In my mid-40's I am already experiencing a lot of it. A decade or so ago, I was into nice old school 'automatic' watches. These days, I no longer care. I just need something reliable to tell the time. So a plastic digital Casio or Timex is just fine. Reliable, lightweight and it doesn't cost an arm and a leg to buy. And no crying should it break. Same goes for SAK's.

Thats about when I started to feel this way. I was approaching middle to late 40's when I started to cut down and feel burdened by all the stuff. In my 30's I had gone over the edge, prepping and having an arsenal home in the basement. It was in my 40's that I looked around and asked myself "What am I doing with all this s--t? The Ruger mini 14's and crates of ammo, all the survival gear and stockpiles of food. All went. The food we just used up on family camping trips and gave away. Guns all sold off except for our personal handguns we had before my leap into the prepping trip.

Like you, theres a black plastic Casio analog watch on my wrist, and it keeps perfect time and can be replaced with 14.95. A far cry from the nice Seiko I used to wear. I'm not a doctor, and I don't know the why of it, but I do know that there is something that happens when we go through the aging process, that is like a vale being lifted from our sight. Things seem clearer, and we look at what we've been doing and its like seeing that we were in some kind of temporary insanity. I look back on my obsession with BMW motorcycles in amazement. I fooled around with them for a few decades, and was on a great snob trip. My nose was so far up in the air I'm surprised I didn't bleed to death from the nosebleeds. Yet my best, most most reliable motorcycle I ever had was a 1972 Honda CB750. Never failed, ran great, smooth, did everything. But it didn't have the "whatever" that the BMW had. Finally sold the BMW's and came back to reality. Motorcyles, guns, custom knives, all ego trips. A SAK is no ego, just pure effective everyday carry tool. They just work. And they work at a much much wider variety of tasks than any dedicated knife.

No, I don't know what changes happen in our heads as we age, but I do know from own experience that there are changes that happen. Material things seem to matter way way less as we go on, and things are just things. But as an old man I can tell you, at this stage the people that I love in my life are way, WAY, more important to me than 'things, or 'stuff'.

SAK's, Casio watches, do what they are supposed to do with no fanfare. Thats all I really need now.
 
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100% agree on the watch... I have a beautiful timepiece that was gifted to me that I wear for dress, but other than that, I just need a Casio because I don't like a cell phone. No fanfare. I have one deep-purple Zippo. That's it.

I think I might be reverse-engineering your idea of "Maximum Minimalism", though. I am working on my two 91mm Dream-SAKs, selling off expensive exclusive Spydercos that I thought I'd keep forever to do so. I was chasing a grail, for a while. A few, actually. But, lately, I've been falling in love with the SAKs. I also felt like I came out of a fugue state when I saw 8 models of the same knife because of different steel/scale materials (PM2), spending over $200 just on the modification of one.... Absolute insanity that period was.

I would much rather have some of my favorite user blades, like my D-Fly Wharncliffe in the beautiful K390 steel/dual-sharpened grafting blade from an Ecoline Grafter + serrated Spyderco Cricket blade + wharncliffe blade, also probably off Grafter or Floral, on a simple 91mm SAK to grab. Still carry at least one dedicated pocket-knife, but the SAKs have won me in a way. I just want them to be juuuust so. My white scales... my base 91mm model... my choice of blades, one Spyderco and one Victorinox.

I would give some valuable knives away to have that done in a flash of my hand. I know it's a little excessive, but it's more minimalistic than carrying four pocket knives like I would sometimes do! Ha.
 
I sharpened two of my Victorinox knives today and that struck me like you said , they get sooo sharp quickly , and they have several tools in the body of a package of regular knives. i was EDCing a swiss champ for a while and it gets in the rotation now and again, but this Cadet that i honed up really dose it ... BOTTLE OPENER !!!!!!!
 
Victorinox steel is, for me, a beginner, my favorite steel to sharpen. It's just so EASY to make it just, really really sharp.
Spyderco has a steel called BD1N that's appeal is it's stainlessness, it's easy sharpenability and keen edge, and a Victorinox twice as thick out-cut it, even when both were sharpened the same way. No dissing on Spyderco Z-cuts, I love them, but "Inox", or 12c27 modified, is awesome. I need to give it more edge retention testing. I don't know how well it holds an edge because I've been using the white rods every time I find a blade that doesn't shave. Going to have to leave it for longer!
 
I sharpened two of my Victorinox knives today and that struck me like you said , they get sooo sharp quickly , and they have several tools in the body of a package of regular knives. i was EDCing a swiss champ for a while and it gets in the rotation now and again, but this Cadet that i honed up really dose it ... BOTTLE OPENER !!!!!!!

Thats what I love about SAK steel; it sooo easy to get shaving sharp. It holds an edge good enough to get through the day in spite of what the steel snobs think. Yesterday morning I was frying up some bacon, and needed a can to put the bacon grease in to put it in the freezer to solidify so to put in the trash. I used my classic to cut the tops off two of the beer cans that my son-in-law killed the night before. Sliced through the aluminum and then broke down a cardboard box for the recycle bin. After breakfast I looked at the edge under a magnifying glass and could find no bright spots, and it still sliced paper easy.

If it does get a bit dull, I taught my daughter the coffee mug trick, so when her SAK gets a little dull, she strops it on the Botton of the coffee mug. Her little SAK is always sharp. Her favorite mug is a souvenir mug from our family trip to Oregon and Crater Lake. Its a pretty big mug with a wider than normal unglazed ring on the bottom that makes a great sharpener.
 
Thats what I love about SAK steel; it sooo easy to get shaving sharp.

SAK's were always intended to be used by normal people going about their normal lives. And the SAK steel was chosen so all these people could easily sharpen it without the need for multiple expensive sharpening stones. A coffee mug is really all that is needed, like you say. Or some sanding paper. Or a very simple and cheap pocket stone like I use. I love SAK steel. From what I read they have it made to their specifications in France and Germany.
 
I'm coming up on the Big 60 in a few months. I have a tackle box full of traditional slip joints from all the famous makers. I carry one of the new Executives in my pocket every day now. And a Pioneer or recruit is added as needed. Go figure. It just works for me. I have "adopted" our Pastors 10 year old son as a sort of surrogate grandson. Someone at church gave him a "Camper" for Christmas last year. Kind of beat me to it. He put a little carabiner on it and clips it to his belt loop. I gave him a "classic" for his birthday a while ago and told him it was for "undercover work". He sort of dug that...lol.....He has bought some of the cheap, cool, one hand knives too, I guess all boys do that, but that SAK is always there. I gave his older sister a red classic a couple of weeks ago as a reward for some church work she helped with and she was pretty excited about it too! I think we have a couple of new members of the "club"..!
 
I recently tried to get back into carrying a stockman (a like-new vintage Old Timer 34OT), but for most tasks I find myself pulling out my Climber or Huntsman. I don't often need three knife blades, but I do need scissors a lot. Those awesome Vic scissors probably get used about twice as often as the blades. Can’t do that with a stockman.

My Opinel has been relegated to culinary duties at work (slicing bread and apples).
 
While I'm in my 60's, I haven't got to the minimalist stage yet. SAK of course is always in my pocket (and is the most used) I still have an affinity for some of my other knives. But I do have some identified as the first ones I'll sell. I gotta get on that.
 
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