ESEE and Firesteel

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Snakemonkey555

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Hey BFC,

I've searched the BFC site and cannot find what I'm looking for...:( I need some help on how to grind off about an inch off the spine of my ESEE's so I can strike a firesteel to produce a good spark. What kind of tool/tools should I use?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!!!
 
I assume you mean an inch in length along the spine, not an inch of blade width?

A belt sander would work perfect.
 
Any sander, dremel/rotary tool, or just a file would work if thats all you have.
 
ive tried this with multiple knives, hard to get an extremely sharp 90 degree angle with a belt sander. have a look at survive knives. they make some nice uncoated blades out of high end steels. i think they'll b puting esee outa business soon enough
 
Literally any abrasive will do it. Rocks, sandpaper, sharpening stones, files, or belt sanders could all do it.

HepatitisJ said:
ive tried this with multiple knives, hard to get an extremely sharp 90 degree angle with a belt sander.
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What kind of belt sander are we talking? A big table mounted 1-3 x 42-72+ belt/disk sander shouldn't give much trouble. People grind ridiculously straight edge bevels with them - a 90 degree angle should be easy.

HepatitisJ said:
have a look at survive knives. they make some nice uncoated blades out of high end steels. i think they'll b puting esee outa business soon enough
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I'm sorry, but...

Esee makes the best production 1095 carbon steel blades on the market, period. Their heat treatment is phenomenal, and they have the best warranty in the business. Short of buying a custom, you can't find better fixed blades with simple steel. The only reason they could go out of business is from their own mismanagement of their company. If an outside company could do it, Becker already would have (they make almost the same blades, after all.)
 
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1. Survival knives, the ones billed as such, are crap. They are almost always made of cheap, worthless metals that are not heat treated properly. There's a reason they don't cost much.

2. Esee makes the best production 1095 carbon steel blades on the market, period. Their heat treatment is phenomenal, and they have the best warranty in the business. Short of buying a custom, you can't find better fixed blades with simple steel. The only reason they could go out of business is from their own mismanagement of their company. If an outside company could do it, Becker already would have (they make almost the same blades, after all.)
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On point 2, I agree. Point 1. He is talking about Survive! Knives. Not "survival knives". It's a company. Here is a thread by the owner - http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/989763-SURVIVE!-Knives-EDC-4
 
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he's talking about a new startup company called surivive knives. they're getting good promotion from the equip2endure guys. there knives are made from cpm-3v and elmax.
but i agree that, esee is a great company, good knives for reasonable price.

edit: thegame beat me to it! lol
 
Grease said:
Literally any abrasive will do it. Rocks, sandpaper, sharpening stones, files, or belt sanders could all do it.



What kind of belt sander are we talking? A big table mounted 1-3 x 42-72+ belt/disk sander shouldn't give much trouble. People grind ridiculously straight edge bevels with them - a 90 degree angle should be easy.



I'm sorry, but...

Esee makes the best production 1095 carbon steel blades on the market, period. Their heat treatment is phenomenal, and they have the best warranty in the business. Short of buying a custom, you can't find better fixed blades with simple steel. The only reason they could go out of business is from their own mismanagement of their company. If an outside company could do it, Becker already would have (they make almost the same blades, after all.)
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yes but if u can get an uncoated knife in 3v or elmax for the same price why would u buy 1095? I own every esee minus the machete and they're ok but survive knives is upping the value of production outdoors blades
 
HepatitisJ said:
yes but if u can get an uncoated knife in 3v or elmax for the same price why would u buy 1095? I own every esee minus the machete and they're ok but survive knives is upping the value of production outdoors blades
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Are they really the same price? Link above for the 4.25" version is $165 without sheath vs. $100 for the ESEE-4 with sheath and MOLLE locks. With a kydex sheath that would make it a bit over double the price.

...not saying the Survive knives aren't well priced, only that they aren't in the same price range as the ESEEs
 
I think there is room for both Esee and Survive! knives. Survive! knives are a bit more expensive (for the pre-orders, going to cost more later on) in steels that perform better. Esee offers an amazing warranty in a steel proven for long term use in the outdoors with low maintenance.
 
Grease,
I couldn't agree with you more, Mike and the boys at ESEE produce a blade that is reliable and affordable. IMO the best in business.
 
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An option if your fire steel has a thumb hold, is to run a loop of para cord through the thumb hold and a couple of inches of snapped off hack saw blade. Self contained and can be a neck carry if so desired.
 
Hate to tell you this but Survive Knives will NEVER put ESSE out of business and for a very good reason. It takes like 6 months to a year to even get your Survive Knife once you order it and that is if you are lucky! ESSE is far more avalible, they have best warranty in the knife business, and their 1095 is solid plus they give you a good sheath. All in all you get a Knife that is almost a 100 dollars cheaper so if you think about it, they are not even in the same pricing range thus no competition whatsoever. ESSE is a leader in the 1095 market and most of the guys on here will agree with me.Survive doesn't even make 1095 they use stuff like CPM 3V or CPM 20V ect.
 
Five years later and Survive hasn't put Esse out of business yet. Me thinks we can put this one to rest:D
 
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