ESEE Purchase Dilemma

Joined
Jun 11, 2014
Messages
33
Hey guys, first of all, I am new to these forums. I've been reading here for a while, but this is my first time posting anything. The site is awesome, hoping that I can hang around for a while, and eventually possess the knowledge to help others as much as you guys have helped me already.

I know what I am going to ask, has probably been asked before, in fact, I know it has. But, rather than go to an older thread, just to ask a specific question, I think it is likely best to just start a new one. So here goes.

What I am looking to figure out, is which ESEE knife to purchase. Coming up in just under 2 weeks, I am going to make my first major knife purchase. With the intention of general bushcraft/survival being the main purpose for the knife. I am wanting the knife to be able to perform in most categories, and be capable of handling any abuse that it might need to. That being said, I do have smaller knives that I carry with me, which work amazingly well for smaller tasks. Currently carry either a BK11, or a Mora knife. The Mora, I bought because it was cheap and I wanted to see if it lived up to the hype. Also, wanted a cheap knife to mess around with etching. It served it's purpose well. I also carry a hatchet, and a folding saw, so the knife doesn't "Need" to be super beefy. But, if I am spending ~$150 on the knife, I want to get as much out of it as possible.

On to the ESEE specific question. I'm between the ESEE 5 and 6, at the moment. I know that typically, most people look to weight difference, and grind, as the main reasons for choosing one over the other. Both of which, are very valid things to consider, and I have thought a lot about both myself. But another thing is also a major factor for me, that being the sheath. From what I can tell, the ESEE 5 comes with a really nice kydex sheath, which includes the locking mechanism for the blade. This is something I really like about this knife. The ESEE 6 however, just comes with a plastic sheath. Nothing really special about it. I know, that I can easily get a kydex sheath for it after the fact, if I so choose, but for another ~$30, the ESEE 5 comes with one. Another thing that I have to take into consideration, is that, I may not have the cash to just go and grab a nice kydex sheath for the 6 at a later date. So, I am really wanting to pack as much into my current price point as possible.

So for me, personally, I don't care about the added weight of the ESEE 5, grind doesn't make too much difference to me, the only thing stopping me from choosing, is the sheath. So, I am looking for any opinions you guys might have. I am willing to spend up to $150, with less obviously being better. What would your choice be?
 
Welcome to Bladeforums! Even though it appears you've been lurking since June of 2014 :)
Also, thank you for posting something legible in your first post (That doesn't happen often!)

Do not worry about the sheaths. The ESEE 5 and ESEE 6 are different animals. One being a heavy and wide beast and the other being a long and thin slicer. Both excel at chopping/batoning, but I would choose the ESEE 6 over the 5, for the ability to do finer tasks well. The ESEE 6 does come with a Injection Molded sheath vs Kydex, but I guarantee you will end up with a custom kydex sheath eventually (or custom leather). However, the ESEE 6 sheath is more than adequate and does it's job. You can also order the ESEE 6 blade by itself and use your savings to buy a kydex sheath.

Here is a past thread for you to read through:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/833350-ESEE-6-sheath-Kydex

Be sure to give the ESEE 4 a stern looking over too! You will be glad you did!
 
I would get the 6 mostly because of blade thickness.
You could always get a new sheath for the 6, as you pointed out.
 
ESEE 6, hands down.

The ESEE 5 was my first nice fixed blade, and I still have a soft spot for it. I got it because I needed an all arounder for camping, and it fills that role well enough.

However...

It's way too thick to cut efficiently. It's not balanced well IMO. The glass breaking pommel looks cool but ultimately just gets in the way.

I generally prefer ESEE to Becker, but if you're going to get an all arounder, the BK2 is a better choice. Much more ergonomic with better balance, and with a micarta scale upgrade is comparable to the 5. But even then, I would urge you to think about staying away from all arounders like that. You can accomplish much more with an Izula and a 6 than with a 5 alone.

Even the ESEE guys have said the 6 is the better woods knife, so take that for what you will.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/754257-ESEE-5-vs-ESEE-6?p=9014501#post9014501
 
Yeah, you guys are kind of confirming my own thoughts on the matter.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know of some good places to purchase an ESEE 6, just the knife. I see it on the Knife Connection website for around $90, but it's currently sold out, and I have no idea how often they get new stock. Of course, I have ~2 weeks before placing any order, so it could possibly be back in stock by then.

I'm also wondering, if any of you guys might know a good place where I could purchase a kydex sheath for the ESEE 6? I've checked around and found a few sites, but I am definitely lacking knowledge when it comes to kydex.
 
Yeah, you guys are kind of confirming my own thoughts on the matter.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know of some good places to purchase an ESEE 6, just the knife. I see it on the Knife Connection website for around $90, but it's currently sold out, and I have no idea how often they get new stock. Of course, I have ~2 weeks before placing any order, so it could possibly be back in stock by then.

I'm also wondering, if any of you guys might know a good place where I could purchase a kydex sheath for the ESEE 6? I've checked around and found a few sites, but I am definitely lacking knowledge when it comes to kydex.

Someone more knowledgeable than I could probably point you in the right direction regarding the sheath.

For the knife itself, I typically buy from KnifeWorks, but I don't see any options without the sheath. TKC might be your best bet for that sort of thing, but I would also shoot Dale an email right away since it might be an outdated listing or something along those lines. I think he recently went through a site upgrade, so I would just verify that before waiting.
 
Yeah, you guys are kind of confirming my own thoughts on the matter.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know of some good places to purchase an ESEE 6, just the knife. I see it on the Knife Connection website for around $90, but it's currently sold out, and I have no idea how often they get new stock. Of course, I have ~2 weeks before placing any order, so it could possibly be back in stock by then.

I'm also wondering, if any of you guys might know a good place where I could purchase a kydex sheath for the ESEE 6? I've checked around and found a few sites, but I am definitely lacking knowledge when it comes to kydex.

Here is a list of Bladeforums paid dealers: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1089879-Paid-Dealer-Members-List

I highly recommend you check out www.knifeworks.com
 
Yeah, you guys are kind of confirming my own thoughts on the matter.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know of some good places to purchase an ESEE 6, just the knife. I see it on the Knife Connection website for around $90, but it's currently sold out, and I have no idea how often they get new stock. Of course, I have ~2 weeks before placing any order, so it could possibly be back in stock by then.

I'm also wondering, if any of you guys might know a good place where I could purchase a kydex sheath for the ESEE 6? I've checked around and found a few sites, but I am definitely lacking knowledge when it comes to kydex.

710 makes a good sheath. He's a member on these forums.
 
Don't overlook the Laser Strike!

I would pick that over the 5 or 6 anyday!

Out of the 5 or 6..........the 6 gets the nod all the way, but I would still pick the Laser Strike! Great length and feel, great sheath, better deal all the way around in my opinion!
 
I chose the 6, mainly because of the thickness of the blade. The 5 is way too thick for my needs. Also the extra length is handy for batoning firewood. The sheath is absolutely fine, it does everything I need it to do. If I was going to suggest any improvement it would be to the slabby micarta handle scales that are not that comfortable in my hands.

Nick
 
What exactly is the problem with the injection molded sheath? I actually like them more than the Kydex, they are more resistant to heat / cold.
 
I own both and the 6 actually sees use. It is much better at actually cutting things than the 5. The molded plastic sheath for the 6 is actually very good. Molded plastic stand up to hot and cold better than kydex. It is actually not as wide than a similar kydex sheath. In fact, Esee has changed from the kydex sheath on the 4 to a molded plastic one. That means the Izula, 3, 4, & 6 all come with this type of sheath. If you don't have experience with one you should not assume the kydex is better. The sheath would be an after thought for me if deciding between the 5 & 6.
 
I agree with Lonewolf on the injection molded sheath. I think it is a darn good sheath that holds the knife great! As for where to buy the knife, all us dealers that are members on here would prefer you consider us first :)
 
Don't overlook the Laser Strike!

I would pick that over the 5 or 6 anyday!

Out of the 5 or 6..........the 6 gets the nod all the way, but I would still pick the Laser Strike! Great length and feel, great sheath, better deal all the way around in my opinion!

x2

I would get the Laser Strike instead of 5 or 6. The sheath is awesome as said for Mr. Tettnanger.
 
What exactly is the problem with the injection molded sheath? I actually like them more than the Kydex, they are more resistant to heat / cold.

Yes. Try the sheath first. I've had no trouble with any of their sheaths, kydex or injection molded.
 
I had never even considered the Laser Strike, it looks really nice too. And my issue with the molded sheath is that I assumed it would not have as much blade retention as the kydex would. However, since I am lacking experience with either, if you guys say that it's fine, then I will take your word for it.

I guess now, I just have to sort out where to purchase the knife from.

Thank you guys a ton, you've all been super helpful!
 
Being that most Esee knives have a the molded sheath I don't think they would populate their entire line with an inferior sheath. In fact, I liked that they switched the 4 to the molded sheath. I have had both the kydex and the molded for the 4 and the molded has a smaller form factor. No retention issues whatsoever.
 
Thats good to hear. I've just been a little cautious I guess. I had a previous knife that came with a molded plastic sheath, not only was the retention an issue from the start, but just taking the knife in/out of the sheath caused it to dull the blade big time. I also had to fashion something to hold the blade in the sheath after about a month of use, as it did not hold the knife in it at all anymore after that.

This will be my first major knife purchase, so I am just trying to cover all the bases. And from what I am hearing, the ESEE 6 sheath seems to be a pretty solid item, and my worries were not necessary. Perhaps I will just order a standard ESEE 6, and just upgrade later if I feel the need to do so.
 
Back
Top