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Emerson Commander due to the clunky chisel grind. Benchmade 710HS due to the ergonomics (or lack thereof). Spyderco JD Smith folder due to the funky double choils and gritty opening action.
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Ever get a good knife that was not right you?
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Benchmade AFCK. It's an awesome knife. I loved the feel, the nasty black blade, the sheer manliness of it. It's one fantastic folder.
Why don't I have it anymore?
I bought a Strider.
Why don't I have it anymore?
I bought a Strider.
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Yup, I had a partially serrated M16.BOK said:
Benchmade 722:
I decided I did'nt like tantos after all. And the thumbstud is too close to the handle.
Almost every FRN/zytel handle folder:
Just could'nt get past the way they felt and appeared like cheap plastic--they just don't instill that pride of ownership that a nice micarta, G-10, SS, or titanium does.
But they are good work knives and great starter knives.
CRKT Mirage:
The liner-lock consistantly failed a light spine-whack. This was the one that turned me away from all liner-locks.
And I don't regret it one bit.
CRKT Bladelock:
I really love the design and the locking mechanism--but after carving some wood for less than 1 hour, It gave me a blister and was uncomfortable to use.
Benchmade 550 Griptilian:
A great knife....but, my thumb often slipped over the oval thumb-hole without deploying the blade.
The 551 is perfect!
About every knife without a pocket-clip:
Everytime I put one in my pocket I'm reminded why I love the pocket-clip.
I hate having a knife in the bottom of my pocket against my thigh.
I really wish Victorinox would get with the pocket-clip revolution.
Allen.
I decided I did'nt like tantos after all. And the thumbstud is too close to the handle.
Almost every FRN/zytel handle folder:
Just could'nt get past the way they felt and appeared like cheap plastic--they just don't instill that pride of ownership that a nice micarta, G-10, SS, or titanium does.
But they are good work knives and great starter knives.
CRKT Mirage:
The liner-lock consistantly failed a light spine-whack. This was the one that turned me away from all liner-locks.
And I don't regret it one bit.
CRKT Bladelock:
I really love the design and the locking mechanism--but after carving some wood for less than 1 hour, It gave me a blister and was uncomfortable to use.
Benchmade 550 Griptilian:
A great knife....but, my thumb often slipped over the oval thumb-hole without deploying the blade.
The 551 is perfect!
About every knife without a pocket-clip:
Everytime I put one in my pocket I'm reminded why I love the pocket-clip.
I hate having a knife in the bottom of my pocket against my thigh.
I really wish Victorinox would get with the pocket-clip revolution.
Allen.
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glockman99 said:
Want some cheese with that whine, the whole right handed world is out to get you!! People change their sexual orientation all the time, what ya can't use your other hand and become part of the right side of society?
:footinmou 
just kiddin'glockman, I've used a lefthanded knife and actually carry a lefthanded or ambidextrous knife on my weak side.Wouldn't the world be a better place if we were all the same, Then when someone told me to "Go F**K myself I could pick anyone."
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dogplasma said:
"Pocket Pineapple" is right on, good description DP. I wish I could like it, it is just too fat for my tastes.
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Fat grips are where it's at!ROM831 said:
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So I guess this is why nobody makes a chisle ground half serrated tanto black blade with a liner lock and a fat handle that works best in the left hand...
Then again, it would probably be the perfect knife for a few people that would be fanatically loyal.
Should I patent this idea
Seriously though, very interesting and thoughtful responses.
Chris
Then again, it would probably be the perfect knife for a few people that would be fanatically loyal.
Should I patent this idea
Seriously though, very interesting and thoughtful responses.
Chris
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Knoob question: what's chisel-ground?
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Ground like a chisel, sharpened on 1 side only, not only tanto but all blade shapes.
I have a CRKT Fire red M16 it's a hollow ground, chisel ground, half serrated, tanto shaped blade.
I have a CRKT Fire red M16 it's a hollow ground, chisel ground, half serrated, tanto shaped blade.
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Gerber Covert - the dagger grind was pretty much crap utility wise. Should have bought the less sexy flat grind.
Largely due to being in Spyderco's collector's club, I've had the opportunity to try most or check out most of the models in the lineup. I haven't used the club to collect everything, but rather I've been looking for the "one" knife. I keep the "one" until something better comes along, the old "one" gets sold. I'll limit myself to commenting on the ones that I'd seriously considered for contention or used for awhile. These aren’t all in order:
Larger Wegner - My first Spyderco. Very impressive feel, and heft. Ultimately the large belly, high point, and hollow grind let me down for my admittedly "gentleman’s" needs. This is where I learned to dislike hollow grinds.
Bob "T" C15 - I lucked into one of these. I treasured as an object. I found the ergos and blade profile to be perfect for EDC, but the saber grind was another let down. I passed this on to a friend who's a Sebenza fanatic.
Carbon Fiber Police - This was a beautiful piece. Carried easy, great point, but for serious cutting the hollow grind as usual was an issue. Ultimately really just too large, esp. for something where only the point was useful for me.
Plainedge Rescue - Thin, light, cut like an absolute laser for light duty. Loved the straight edge. The lack of a point retired it. Hated the barrel-bolt clip too.
Carbon Fiber Civilian - A really magnificent piece. Was very surprised to see that Sal had listened to me an added the tip-up carry option (thanks Sal!
). I have no criticism of the knife itself, other than by carrying it, I learned that I didn't like to carry a weapon.
Grey Matriarch - got this one used from Sal himself (thanks Sal! ), but it went with the Civilian for the same reason.
Military - just too damn big.
Native III - I really liked the handle on this knife. One of my last real attempts to make nice with a hollow grind. Didn't work for me.
Assist II - Took the FRN handled knife to a whole new level. Loved the wharncliffe point - this got me really looking at wharncliffes. The whistle really didn't work for me. Don't care for the Hood. Not really into serrations either. Finally it was the overall size and bulk of the piece that shifted me away. The wire clips on this and the Native III were great.
Meerkat – Really a nice little handful of a knife. Phantom lock was very easy to use. The wire clip failed me and it went back to Spyderco. Reverse-s blade profile was so shallow that it didn’t seem to offer any advantage over the drop-point. This one ended up being too small, and too bulky for its size. And I don’t like tip-down.
Lil Temperance – I’d loved the look of the trailing point and had really looked forward to getting one. But once again that high point and lots of belly fell down a bit for EDC. And it is a very bulky and heavy thing for the amount of blade length you get. Fine for an MBCer, but a drawback for light utility use (which it isn’t intended for). I didn’t bother trying the leaf.
Impala – all the same issues as with the Wegner. You’d think I’d learn. Don’t care for tip-down either.
Salsa Ti – Having had to sell my beloved and perfect Lum Chinese folder due to new draconian carry laws in Boston, I’d really looked forward to this. But on my first run model, the wire clip was too tight, and the detent failed to keep the blade closed in pocket or on the draw – especially with the hood trying to wave it open. I found the hood to be an unnecessary addition. Also the lock bar traveled over very quickly with EDC use. This soured me on framelocks a bit. I had it factory serviced then passed it on.
Almite Navigator – the slots in the handle made it very uncomfortable in the hand.
Shabaria – I like this one despite the hollow grind. I recall being annoyed with tip-down, but I think it went because it just wasn’t quite what I was looking for. I think at this point I really began looking to knives with about a 3” blade.
Ayoob – this one was like a SS Police. Thin and easy to carry, great point, and that’s it for me. *&*(^! tip-down. %^$%! Hollow grinds. Too large for my EDC.
Spyderhawk – It had at least some utility use, if awkwardly, but at the end of the day it was a weapon, and I didn’t feel comfortable carrying it, and it went.
Schempp Persian – From all of my prior experience I knew it wouldn’t work for me the moment I saw it, but it was too pretty and refined to not try it. Oh well.
Dodo – the only hollow ground knife I liked in EDC. No real criticism other than I liked the Para better for EDC when it came out, which retired my pair of Dodos. The Para was just a more comfortable and natural extension of the hand for all cutting tasks. And with no blade length restrictions in my current locale, there’s no need to put up with the limited (though great) ergos, and more specialized blade profile of the Dodo.
WT Kerambit – I was looking forward to this one, and it is a gorgeous knife. But the moment I held one in my hand my gut reaction was “brass knuckles.” It really struck me as being a pure weapon, and so it went unused.
Para-Military – This knife really redefined EDC utility for me. My only complaint was tip-down only carry, but which is at least partially own fault, so I can’t complain too much. Though I haven’t actually sold it the arrival of the Yojimbo has pretty much retired it. The straight edged 3” blade with its lightsaber point, and straight handle ergos took me one step closer to my unseen and still undiscovered ideal. I can’t say anything against the Para, the Yojimbo just suited my uses better, and sometimes you don't know that there could be a "better" until you happen upon it.
Largely due to being in Spyderco's collector's club, I've had the opportunity to try most or check out most of the models in the lineup. I haven't used the club to collect everything, but rather I've been looking for the "one" knife. I keep the "one" until something better comes along, the old "one" gets sold. I'll limit myself to commenting on the ones that I'd seriously considered for contention or used for awhile. These aren’t all in order:
Larger Wegner - My first Spyderco. Very impressive feel, and heft. Ultimately the large belly, high point, and hollow grind let me down for my admittedly "gentleman’s" needs. This is where I learned to dislike hollow grinds.
Bob "T" C15 - I lucked into one of these. I treasured as an object. I found the ergos and blade profile to be perfect for EDC, but the saber grind was another let down. I passed this on to a friend who's a Sebenza fanatic.
Carbon Fiber Police - This was a beautiful piece. Carried easy, great point, but for serious cutting the hollow grind as usual was an issue. Ultimately really just too large, esp. for something where only the point was useful for me.
Plainedge Rescue - Thin, light, cut like an absolute laser for light duty. Loved the straight edge. The lack of a point retired it. Hated the barrel-bolt clip too.
Carbon Fiber Civilian - A really magnificent piece. Was very surprised to see that Sal had listened to me an added the tip-up carry option (thanks Sal!
). I have no criticism of the knife itself, other than by carrying it, I learned that I didn't like to carry a weapon.Grey Matriarch - got this one used from Sal himself (thanks Sal!
), but it went with the Civilian for the same reason.Military - just too damn big.
Native III - I really liked the handle on this knife. One of my last real attempts to make nice with a hollow grind. Didn't work for me.
Assist II - Took the FRN handled knife to a whole new level. Loved the wharncliffe point - this got me really looking at wharncliffes. The whistle really didn't work for me. Don't care for the Hood. Not really into serrations either. Finally it was the overall size and bulk of the piece that shifted me away. The wire clips on this and the Native III were great.
Meerkat – Really a nice little handful of a knife. Phantom lock was very easy to use. The wire clip failed me and it went back to Spyderco. Reverse-s blade profile was so shallow that it didn’t seem to offer any advantage over the drop-point. This one ended up being too small, and too bulky for its size. And I don’t like tip-down.
Lil Temperance – I’d loved the look of the trailing point and had really looked forward to getting one. But once again that high point and lots of belly fell down a bit for EDC. And it is a very bulky and heavy thing for the amount of blade length you get. Fine for an MBCer, but a drawback for light utility use (which it isn’t intended for). I didn’t bother trying the leaf.
Impala – all the same issues as with the Wegner. You’d think I’d learn. Don’t care for tip-down either.
Salsa Ti – Having had to sell my beloved and perfect Lum Chinese folder due to new draconian carry laws in Boston, I’d really looked forward to this. But on my first run model, the wire clip was too tight, and the detent failed to keep the blade closed in pocket or on the draw – especially with the hood trying to wave it open. I found the hood to be an unnecessary addition. Also the lock bar traveled over very quickly with EDC use. This soured me on framelocks a bit. I had it factory serviced then passed it on.
Almite Navigator – the slots in the handle made it very uncomfortable in the hand.
Shabaria – I like this one despite the hollow grind. I recall being annoyed with tip-down, but I think it went because it just wasn’t quite what I was looking for. I think at this point I really began looking to knives with about a 3” blade.
Ayoob – this one was like a SS Police. Thin and easy to carry, great point, and that’s it for me. *&*(^! tip-down. %^$%! Hollow grinds. Too large for my EDC.
Spyderhawk – It had at least some utility use, if awkwardly, but at the end of the day it was a weapon, and I didn’t feel comfortable carrying it, and it went.
Schempp Persian – From all of my prior experience I knew it wouldn’t work for me the moment I saw it, but it was too pretty and refined to not try it. Oh well.
Dodo – the only hollow ground knife I liked in EDC. No real criticism other than I liked the Para better for EDC when it came out, which retired my pair of Dodos. The Para was just a more comfortable and natural extension of the hand for all cutting tasks. And with no blade length restrictions in my current locale, there’s no need to put up with the limited (though great) ergos, and more specialized blade profile of the Dodo.
WT Kerambit – I was looking forward to this one, and it is a gorgeous knife. But the moment I held one in my hand my gut reaction was “brass knuckles.” It really struck me as being a pure weapon, and so it went unused.
Para-Military – This knife really redefined EDC utility for me. My only complaint was tip-down only carry, but which is at least partially own fault, so I can’t complain too much. Though I haven’t actually sold it the arrival of the Yojimbo has pretty much retired it. The straight edged 3” blade with its lightsaber point, and straight handle ergos took me one step closer to my unseen and still undiscovered ideal. I can’t say anything against the Para, the Yojimbo just suited my uses better, and sometimes you don't know that there could be a "better" until you happen upon it.
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CRKT Crawford/Kasper Pro. Everyone seemed to love it, it had a good blade, a good bead blast aluminium handle, smooth opening, sharp etc etc
But the shape & position of the liner lock just didnt fit with the shape of the side of my index finger and I only had to grip it and twist it fractionally and the lock would disengage (as I found out when I got the blade stuck in a piece of wood and pulled to get it free...)
Ceramic knives. good idea but Im too scared of chipping the blade to ever use the one I own!!!
But the shape & position of the liner lock just didnt fit with the shape of the side of my index finger and I only had to grip it and twist it fractionally and the lock would disengage (as I found out when I got the blade stuck in a piece of wood and pulled to get it free...)
Ceramic knives. good idea but Im too scared of chipping the blade to ever use the one I own!!!
i've bought so many knives just to be disapointed....
Ontario spec plus....nice handle idea but the all their blades edges are too thick and the knives feel cheap.
Air force survival knife....can't get a good edge on them and they're poorly balanced.
Fallkniven F1, S1 and NL-5...I've read so many good things about them but I don't think anyone who wrote the positive comments ever used them for wood cutting which is one of the major chores in a survival situation...they suck! Even the pricey NL-5 has an edge that's too thick!
Case Copperlock...too skinny in the handle and feels like it's going to brake when I'm using it.
Multi tools...I bought the Gerber when it first came out many years ago....then again, less than a year ago I bought a SOG power plier. I like the size of it better than any other multi tool but just don't have any realistic use for one of these things. If I need a plier I get one from the tool kit, or a screw driver, etc. and I already carry a pocket knife that's nice and light. It's better to have a cheap light weight plier in your day pack along with a separate knife...they both work better than the tools in a multi-tool ever will. I once again realized that these things don't work for me!
Sere 2000...this is a great knife but it's just too heavy to be carried clipped in my pocket. It carries better without the pocket clip if you use a sheath such as the one from a Buck 110.
Ok that's enough of the knives that were a waste of money...here are some that I like:
Spyderco Delica FRN VG-10 blade with plain edge...perfect EDC in my opinion.
USMC Kabar...perfect camp knife IMO.
Camillus Becker Crewman BK-10...another perfect camp knife.
Schrade Sharpfinger....cheap but effective hunting knife.
SWAK...cheap awsome cutting light weight knife to have in your pack.
Vic Soldier, Pioneer, Pioneer Settler etc....the best SAK's ever made.
Buck 110 & 112...cheap but very good locking folders.
Gransfors Bruks Small Forest Axe...perfect size & weight, cut's like a straight razor but chops like an axe is supposed to chop.
Ontario 12" machete with the molded on plastic handle...cut the D part off, it's a very useful big knife that's light weight and cheap.
Opinel No. 8...light weight, blade locks, very good cutting blade and it's only $8.00.
Case Mini Trapper...I just like them.
That's enough for now!
Collecter
Ontario spec plus....nice handle idea but the all their blades edges are too thick and the knives feel cheap.
Air force survival knife....can't get a good edge on them and they're poorly balanced.
Fallkniven F1, S1 and NL-5...I've read so many good things about them but I don't think anyone who wrote the positive comments ever used them for wood cutting which is one of the major chores in a survival situation...they suck! Even the pricey NL-5 has an edge that's too thick!
Case Copperlock...too skinny in the handle and feels like it's going to brake when I'm using it.
Multi tools...I bought the Gerber when it first came out many years ago....then again, less than a year ago I bought a SOG power plier. I like the size of it better than any other multi tool but just don't have any realistic use for one of these things. If I need a plier I get one from the tool kit, or a screw driver, etc. and I already carry a pocket knife that's nice and light. It's better to have a cheap light weight plier in your day pack along with a separate knife...they both work better than the tools in a multi-tool ever will. I once again realized that these things don't work for me!
Sere 2000...this is a great knife but it's just too heavy to be carried clipped in my pocket. It carries better without the pocket clip if you use a sheath such as the one from a Buck 110.
Ok that's enough of the knives that were a waste of money...here are some that I like:
Spyderco Delica FRN VG-10 blade with plain edge...perfect EDC in my opinion.
USMC Kabar...perfect camp knife IMO.
Camillus Becker Crewman BK-10...another perfect camp knife.
Schrade Sharpfinger....cheap but effective hunting knife.
SWAK...cheap awsome cutting light weight knife to have in your pack.
Vic Soldier, Pioneer, Pioneer Settler etc....the best SAK's ever made.
Buck 110 & 112...cheap but very good locking folders.
Gransfors Bruks Small Forest Axe...perfect size & weight, cut's like a straight razor but chops like an axe is supposed to chop.
Ontario 12" machete with the molded on plastic handle...cut the D part off, it's a very useful big knife that's light weight and cheap.
Opinel No. 8...light weight, blade locks, very good cutting blade and it's only $8.00.
Case Mini Trapper...I just like them.
That's enough for now!
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Yeah that has happened to me a bunch. My favorite knife is the one I mentioned in my profile that my grandfather gave me but my all time fave carry knife is still a Case XX Muskrat from the 60s with jigged red bone handles. I've had it for a long time now and got it used. It is still sharp as the dickens and I still get it out and put it in my pocket now and then. I've always loved that knife and the classic lines. There is something nostalgic about it.
I guess that is part of the problem, I've always been searchin' for a knife that would make me feel the same way as I do about the Muskrat and have never found it. Truth be known, I'd love to carry it all the time but I unconciously chew my nails so bad sometimes that I get frustrated when I need a knife to cut something and I can't even open the damn thing to use it because I don't have a nail long enough. As a result of this unconscious habit I have, I always have to have a one hand opener with a thumb stud on me or a big hole in it and so far I have like 400 or so knives and not one of them really suits me as and EDC knife..... go figure. It is a curse to live with a habit that can actually prevent you from picking up a dime off of a hardwood floor if you drop it let me tell you. But it really sucks when you can't carry the knife you'd like to carry because of it. And I'm not looking for sympathy or cures I'm just venting. Besides I've tried all the so called cures and they don't work. I just have to continue my search for a perfect one hand knife I guess.
I guess that is part of the problem, I've always been searchin' for a knife that would make me feel the same way as I do about the Muskrat and have never found it. Truth be known, I'd love to carry it all the time but I unconciously chew my nails so bad sometimes that I get frustrated when I need a knife to cut something and I can't even open the damn thing to use it because I don't have a nail long enough. As a result of this unconscious habit I have, I always have to have a one hand opener with a thumb stud on me or a big hole in it and so far I have like 400 or so knives and not one of them really suits me as and EDC knife..... go figure. It is a curse to live with a habit that can actually prevent you from picking up a dime off of a hardwood floor if you drop it let me tell you. But it really sucks when you can't carry the knife you'd like to carry because of it. And I'm not looking for sympathy or cures I'm just venting. Besides I've tried all the so called cures and they don't work. I just have to continue my search for a perfect one hand knife I guess.