Everglades python hunting season

Cheeseburger said:
Do you have a link? A 25' cobra would be a record. As with any big animal, the size is easily (and often) exaggerated.
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No link; but, that's the only reason I remember it. I agree that it's probably the news exaggerating or flat out lying about the cobra's length. It seems impossible, and that's why I remember it.
 
RatDrall said:
Alright, it makes sense that the snakes are becoming a nuissance. However, is it even possible to put a dent in their population? If everyone who dislikes the pythons kills every one they see, will it matter, or is this up to Nature to deal with now?
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It should not be up to nature to deal with it now. We (people) caused this problem and it is up to us to fix it.

RatDrall said:
If you live in an area where the waters are full of alligators is the python any worse? I would think they are less dangerous to people, seeing as how they can't fit us down their throat thanks to our shoulders.
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The waters are full of gators because they should be. This, what's left of it, is their home, not the invasive pythons, etc.



RatDrall said:
The same could be said about guns :mad:
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Come on. Do we really need to fight about this crap? In this thread? It's not the same at all. If you want to compare the sale of exotic animals to guns then you need to compare it to automatic firearms. They're both exotic, and not standard pets/firearms.

RatDrall said:
Snakes are fine, so long as they are kept responsibly. Someone already mentioned that the sellers are mostly to blame, and they are. They often don't fully inform people about what they are buying, and sell to kids who can't possibly understand what they are getting into. I do think that big snakes should be microchipped so that if they escape the owner could be held responsible. Pet snakes basically spend their waking hours trying to get out of their tanks, and they often succeed if the owner does not properly latch or weigh the lid down. Let the cost fall to the owners.

If exotic pets are banned, they go along with cars dogs greater than 20 lbs, cars with more than 100 horsepower, houses over 2000 sqft, guns, knives longer than 2", pointy sticks, and anything else one group of people or another doesn't agree with and thinks that no one "needs".
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You're missing the point to all this. It's not about hating snakes and lizards and pigs and fish and so on. It's about correcting a problem that we created. We introduced multiple species, which are thriving in the various FL habitats, and wreaking havoc on the native species of plants and animals.
 
C_Kyle said:
You're missing the point to all this. It's not about hating snakes and lizards and pigs and fish and so on. It's about correcting a problem that we created. We introduced multiple species, which are thriving in the various FL habitats, and wreaking havoc on the native species of plants and animals.
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I understand what you're saying, I understand the problem. What I'm struggling with is our capability of taking the invasive critters out. They evolved to thrive in environments just like Florida. For the native species, some might do fine in spite of the snakes and some might die out. It seems that the species that die out are destined to do so. Nature has a way of sorting things out. I can't think of any continent or island where there is one species of critter sitting there with nothing to eat, and nothing to eat it. New critters come and go to balance things out.

I guess that when I think of a giant snake living in a jungle, I feel like leaving it to its snake business, even if that includes eating endangered mice or birds. Same thing with any other critter, unless they start to cause problems for our livestock and other food sources.

Don't get me wrong, if people have a problem with a critter damaging their property I don't care if they kill it, or every one that they see.

I just don't think that people are capable of undoing the damage done by an invasive species. They're there now, we would probably be better off trying to figure a way to deal with them being there, instead of planning on the snakes' presence being a temporary problem that we can stamp out with a hunting season.
 
hang on.

there's a hunting season for invasive feral pest species?

that's nuts.

if it's Feral, it's in Peril. blast 'em 24/7/365 i say.
 
I'm right there with you, and I love snakes. Back before about 2002, it was like a "no questions asked" policy
 
The main problem is there is no good place to get rid of unwanted giant snakes.
 
squishware said:
The main problem is there is no good place to get rid of unwanted giant snakes.
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what's wrong with an axe? i find the common garden hoe to be an awesome snake-smacker (note: i'm in rural australia, so when i see a snake near the house, i take NO chances).

i'm sorry, but flushing them down the dunny just isn't an option.

i firmly believe that if you have a pet that, for whatever reason, you decide you can no longer care for, it is YOUR duty to either find it a new home, put it down yourself or take it to an animal shelter to be adopted out or euthanised.

we have MASSIVE problems with invasive feral pest species in Australia. one of the bigger problems is asian carp in the rivers.

how did the carp get there? some tool release his pet, exotic fish into the river system.

please understand i'm not having a go at you specifically and no offense is intended.
 
RatDrall said:
I just don't think that people are capable of undoing the damage done by an invasive species. They're there now, we would probably be better off trying to figure a way to deal with them being there, instead of planning on the snakes' presence being a temporary problem that we can stamp out with a hunting season.
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I would agree if the creatures made their way into FL of their own accord. People are the reason the creatures are here, people are the reason the damage to the native environment is taking place. It's our responsibility to correct the problem that we started.
 
seems like something that grows as fast as a python or monitor would be great for chicken feed and fertilizer, among other things.

vec
 
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