ex-snobbery

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Hello again all. I recently have gotten very curious about everyone's opinion on something. When i was younger, i was what i think of as the "typical snob" when it comes to collecting or enjoying a hobby. In book collecting i would want the true first edition of a book(preferably signed). In fact, i would hunt through used bookstores all over the Southern U.S. looking for the most flawless books. In knives, i was always after the newest and most sought after steels and makers. You also see this in the culinary world. Wine snobs and so on. With time, however, these tendencies dropped away. Now i am a bit obsessed with quality. I am into limited and deluxe editions of books, which are made with a high standard of quality in the crafting and materials. In knives, i am into the ones made to be used, and used alot. I don't mean abused (as in using them for pry bars etc., just not having features that would be vastly diminished by daily usage). So, i have read through alot of posts about the middle to higher end knives. What i have gotten curious about is the lower to middle end. In the world of wine, wine snobs often completely overlook some very nice, even excellent wines simply because they would never look in a certain price range. Thus, does anybody have an opinion on some cheaper knives that are far more than meets the eye? Are there knives out there that really do equal or even outperform some more expensive knives? What are some of the real gems out there that always get overlooked? Stuff that is not common knowledge. Thanks for reading this longish post.
J
 
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I wouldn't dare say this is not common knowledge at least here among these knowledgable folks but to me that would be Kershaw and Victorinox.
 
There companies that offer good products at a very reasonable price, and still have good old fashioned Customer Service.

In the slipjoint world, Case still offers a very good product at reasonable prices, and has good CS ..

Buck offers a lot of good products, again at a good price with outstanding CS.
Even though it has been around for years, the 110 has not changed much.
It doesn't need to. It is a solid, useable product Still made in the good ol U.S of A. I even have a couple of Bucks imported knives, and the quality on the ones I have is very good.
There are other examples but these are the first that came to mind...

Some people are just going to be snobs about anything. It doesn't bother me any though because I don't associate with people like that.

Everyone has different tastes and budgets, why look down on someone because they either don't care about expensive things or can't afford them .
 
Cold Steel has many great products for the price. It's true many of their stuff screams "mall ninja", but you can't deny that they also have serious hard working products.

IMHO perfection for a cutlery product is about the optimum balance between material, process (heat treatment), geometry, aesthetics, price, and performance for the intended task. I'm the kind of guy who's unwilling to pay 90% extra in price for 10% performance improvement.
 
if you are including companies no longer in existance, then there is a wide array of USA made knives on ebay(used and unused). i don't think Schrade is 'overlooked', but they made a wide range of excellent, durable user knives and because of the great variety are an unending joy to collect.
among current production, i am continually impressed with Rough Rider. these are made in China and can be had for ~ $10 or so. they do not have the 'cachet' of a Case, but they perform as well and feel v. good inhand, and with 2 years EDC experience to date, they stand up to use just as well.
roland
 
there really are some great knives that cost much less.

at his point, i really prefer these type of knives more so than really higher end ones since i wont feel bad about really using and carrying them, and i can probably buy several good less expensive knives for less than 1 higher end one. as long as you dont abuse them, they will pretty much last you a very long time, if not forever.

some less expensive knives that i really like are

kershaw skyline
kershaw needs work
spyderco dragonfly
spyderco tenacious
crkt ichi
volcan knives assisted opener
boker subclaw
boker wharcom
benchmade vex tanto
gerber mini covert
gerber covert assisted
cold steel urban pal



i just ordered a kershaw oso sweet for like $28 shipped, looked really nice on the youtube video reviews.
 
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What are some of the real gems out there that always get overlooked? Stuff that is not common knowledge.

I like to check out some of the "almost forgotten" classic knives, they can be very well priced for the cutting ability. And I also do think that they have more character and more soul, than most G10-clad tacticool thingies.
Think about the original Solingen Mercator (made since some 90 years):
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Or from the same company, an "anchor" knife:
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Or the French Douk-Douk:
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Or the French Nontron (a bit more expensive but still doable and very nice):
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Or one of my absolute favourites, the practical, strong and very affordable Eka 88 series:
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And I would also urge you to check some of the knives by the italian companies Viper, Maserin, Lion Steel, Fox, next to modern designs they also have classic knives that offer great value, not to mention elegance. One example out of many of these splendid italian designs is the affordable yet nice and light Viper Inox Olive:
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Thanks for all the responses so far. These all sound like great suggestions for me to happily go investigate. Keep em coming if anybody has something to add that has not been mentioned yet. Very cool.
J
 
Try a Buck Bravo tanto for 'tactical' or the Tempest for EDC.

Both are in the 100$ range, more or less, and come in 154CM. Other metals are avilable as well for a bit less. Both are pretty good.

My Bravo Tanao had some blade play out fo the box but I tightened it, and I keep it oiled and it works well.
 
I have just purchased my first Kershaw, after some 30 years knowing about the company but never looking into their products.

I am very impressed with my Junk Yard Dog II. It will not be my last Kershaw product. :thumbup:
 
Byrd Knives are amazing quality for next to nothing money.The stainless handle ones are nearly indestructable.
 
...Thus, does anybody have an opinion on some cheaper knives that are far more than meets the eye? Are there knives out there that really do equal or even outperform some more expensive knives? What are some of the real gems out there that always get overlooked? Stuff that is not common knowledge. Thanks for reading this longish post.
J

Check out the Boker Plus line of knives designed by Chad Los Banos (aka "Daywalker").
These are great knives (even though they are made in Taiwan and China), and they perform as well as knives costing much more.

My Boker+ CLB M-Type....
440C blade-steel, strong frame-lock, steel liner embedded in a G-10 scale, for about $40.00 dollars!!!
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Here's a link to Chad's site...
http://www.clbdesign.info/


And the Buck 110 is a great knife that is still very affordable.
But an even better deal is the Alaskan Guide Buck 110 available from Cabela's....S30V steel heat-treated by Mr. Paul Bos, made in the U.S.A., rose wood scales, nice leather sheath, and only for $70.00 dollars!!!

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Check out this link....
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/t...&parentType=index&indexId=cat20891&hasJS=true



And even better are some of the 110 options from Buck's own Custom Shoppe...
http://www.buckknives.com/index.cfm?event=customKnife.build

My two favorite users from Buck's Custom Shoppe:

Indigo royalwood scales, nickle-silver bolsters, S30V blade-steel....
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Fiji orangewood scales, nickle-silver bolsters, S30V blade-steel....
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Each for about $90.00 dollars!!!



Good luck,
Allen
 
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