Fake Knives, Paranoia and Asking the Internet

[Fred Sanford]

Noone will be as informed as some others AND noone wants to get ripped off. I don't see why inquiring if a knife is fake would be a bad thing. Paranoia, conspiracy or whatever... Spydercos are heavily counterfeited and some copies are down to the box they are shipped in. The forums are a tool to educate and learn, I don't think it's detrimental to the brand at all.

There is even a sticky on this subforum dedicated to spotting fakes and the Spyderco.com forum has an entire subforum dedicate to the same thing. The company itself actively pursues fakes and WELCOMES its members' help.

FYI, NOONE is not a word. "No one" is probably what you are looking for.

 

[Krissig12]

Honestly, I dont see the problem buying from "that auction site". Ive bought quite a few knives from people on there and they have all been perfect. The key is to find the best deal, but one that is still within the "range" that the knife usually goes for. If you see a knife that retails for 100 bucks at reputable dealer sites, then the range across different sellers on the bay will likely be between like 80 and 120 (or something similar). If you do a search and find a listing way down on the results page that says $40 and something doesnt feel right when you visit the page (maybe the grammars off or you see chinese symbols ), then its probably best to stay away.

I recently picked up a non-spyderco knife from the bay that ordinarily retailed for 120, but I got for 70 bucks shipped. The only reason I didnt immediately think "FAKE" was because I had seen all the other prices around it on the results page were in the 75-90 range, so it wasnt really too much of a stretch at 70.

The bottom line is when searching for a knife, find the lowest REASONABLE price. I use this rule for all knife dealers, and only deviate if I see that the price is extra low because its on sale.

 

[RSKT]

I'm sorta worried now too. I have been dismissive of spyderco products until the last few days. I don't know why exactly I didn't care for them before, but now that I like them it's like a whole new world has opened up for me. One that is fraught with counterfeits. And though I'm not a knife noob, I am a spyderco noob. And I know I'm not educated enough to spot a really good fake.

 

[jeffsenpai]

Just as an added note for this thread, I troll the "for sale" forums here on a daily basis, and I have yet to see a spyderco counterfeit posing as genuine offered for sale here. Gold membership kind of protects against this.

 

[salmonkiller]

Just as an added note for this thread, I troll the "for sale" forums here on a daily basis, and I have yet to see a spyderco counterfeit posing as genuine offered for sale here. Gold membership kind of protects against this.

I think they would be crucified pretty quickly!


I find it quite puzzling that some people do all the research after they purchase a fake.There has to be some doubt in their mind when they hit the place order button or send funds via PP gift.Self induced paranoia is it possible?Who is the real victim?Who is the enabler?The first question that I ask on a thread where genuineness is the topic is...How much did you pay for the knife?I have seen very few topic starters answer this question.There is always risk in the gray area or the black market and I try to make sound and hopefully wise decisions to keep me away from situations where I later question my own judgement.Counterfeits are a huge problem, but I have never purchased a counterfeit knife in my life.Sometimes it's wise just to pass and move on if you have some funky feelings, questions, or concerns stirring in your mind.Purchasing new from a reputable dealer with a good return policy would be the safest road to travel.The real mccoy is what I deserve and expect. If I can't afford the knife I desire, then I save until I can or it's beyond my means. I don't chase knives on the secondary market.There is always risk when buying used.Does the risk out weight the reward?Is it too good to be true?Paranoia LOL!

 

[mrdeus]

FYI, NOONE is not a word. "No one" is probably what you are looking for.

While we're discussing languages, I have a very interesting thing to bring up that must be of interest to everyone here. In Swedish we have the opposite problem: people separating words that should be written as one.

 

[MTS49]

The absolute best way to make sure you get a genuine product is to order from a reputable dealer and be patient to find one in stock.

I got one from KnifeWorks today and I have only really been watching for them to be in stock for less than a month. That's really not a big deal to wait a few weeks, to me anyways.

Unless you are looking for an older sprint that's not available anymore, I dont see the point in buying a current production PM2 off the auction site. Your opinion may differ, and that's okay.

 

[MTS49]

Black G10/satin blade PM2 in stock at BladeHQ now. Just have to be patient to get one...

 

[Stays Sharp]

FYI, NOONE is not a word. "No one" is probably what you are looking for.

Yeah, and spell check underlines it in red for me everytime. Oh look, "everytime" isnt a word either... and "isnt" should have an apostrophe. Don't worry, I passed English 1A and 1B with an A and a B respectively, my wife is an English major, and have too many teachers in my family to count. I'm here when my shoes are off so to speak so get off my balls.

 

[Fred Sanford]

Yeah, and spell check underlines it in red for me everytime. Oh look, "everytime" isnt a word either... and "isnt" should have an apostrophe. Don't worry, I passed English 1A and 1B with an A and a B respectively, my wife is an English major, and have too many teachers in my family to count. I'm here when my shoes are off so to speak so get off my balls.

Then learn to write.

 

[Rasco]

Saw another post today on the Spyderco Facebook group that asked "Is this orange PM2 real? And if so, what's a good price?"

 

[Stays Sharp]

Then learn to write.

This guy

Noone. I'll continue to use this improper form during informal casual typing * you very much. I'm not exactly guilty of crimes against humanity. Go correct complete strangers' speak in person and see where your rudeness takes you.

 

[inkynate]

I thought "noone" was the olde englishe spelling of "noon," so the suggestion that you meant "no one" was actually quite helpful for me...

No one needs to see you guys go have a duel at "hi noone" over it, lol!

 

[heavyhitter]

The bottom line is when searching for a knife, find the lowest REASONABLE price. I use this rule for all knife dealers, and only deviate if I see that the price is extra low because its on sale.

This.
I think there is too much paranoia in the subject. I've bough private deals and of the auction site and never been burned. There are some basic common sense steps that would help mitigate the risk of getting a knock off.

 

[Rasco]

This.
I think there is too much paranoia in the subject. I've bough private deals and of the auction site and never been burned. There are some basic common sense steps that would help mitigate the risk of getting a knock off.

I question half the time if the "victim" didn't intent to buy a knock-off all along.
Like it or not, the knife collecting world has a lot of goobers, trashy people and low-budget aficionados in it.

 

[The Deacon]

I question half the time if the "victim" didn't intent to buy a knock-off all along.
Like it or not, the knife collecting world has a lot of goobers, trashy people and low-budget aficionados in it.

I'm sure there are exceptions, but I think that accounts for a lot of it. Many are the same type of folks who act surprised when they wind up in the ER because the "Canadian" pharmaceuticals they bought online don't work as expected and are shocked when the cops knock on their door after they mail in the registration card for the TV they bought in a parking lot from "some guy in a van".