Fallkniven updates the F1 - the F1 "Pro"

mete said:
I wouldn't doubt that the thicker blade is greatly influenced by all the forum discussion about batoning ! That's something I rarely do .
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You can baton with much thinner knife than that. I think they probably did it more to provide a better warranty with the thought that thicker means tougher.
 
Does anyone know how the new grind affects blade thickness? It looks to me like they started the convexing about half way down the blade which might make it thinner at the edge and a better slicer. Not sure.
 



Vg10 on steroids.

"The CoS does really get scary sharp, and is a better steel than VG10 in all cases. But it´s never even close to the 3G steel."

Eric, Fallkniven.
 
Cobalt said:
You can baton with much thinner knife than that. I think they probably did it more to provide a better warranty with the thought that thicker means tougher.
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The only problem with this theory is the warranty is likely limited to flaws in craftsmanship. It is still not on par with other companies in this price range. The knife being tough has nothing to do with extending the warranty if it is limited in such a way. In theory, breaking it through hard use would still not be covered.
 
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indischI said:
Does anyone know how the new grind affects blade thickness? It looks to me like they started the convexing about half way down the blade which might make it thinner at the edge and a better slicer. Not sure.
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It's not what I would call a thin grind.
For thin knives from Fällkniven, look for the TK1/TK2!

For hunters there are the F2, F3 & F4.
At 2,5 mm/ 0,10" they are more for slicing.


Regards
Mikael
 
DeadboxHero said:
Vg10 on steroids.

"The CoS does really get scary sharp, and is a better steel than VG10 in all cases. But it´s never even close to the 3G steel."

Eric, Fallkniven.
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The CoS is very easy to sharpen and quickly takes a fine edge.


Regards
Mikael
 
I agree the TK1/Tk2 are a thinner edge and may be what I'm looking for. I just wonder how the new F1 Pro edge compares to the original F1. I'd like to get the benefits of the Laminated CoS and a little thinner edge than the original F1. The pictures look thinner but what has been your experience?
 
craytab said:
It is nice to see Fallkniven join the rest of the modern world and offer a basic lifetime warranty. That was always my biggest grip with the company and is why I don't own one of their products.

But $300? That is far too much. In that price range you can get so much more than what these offer. Survive!, Busse & kin, several Esees with TKC scales, Big Chris customs. If they really are $300 I think they are pricing themselves right out of the market. There will still be fans that buy them regardless but is that enough to sustain the product?
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Cray beat me to it. 100% to this.
 
craytab said:
The only problem with this theory is the warranty is likely limited to flaws in craftsmanship. It is still not on par with other companies in this price range. The knife being tough has nothing to do with extending the warranty if it is limited in such a way. In theory, breaking it through hard use would still not be covered.
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Good points. back to the drawing board, lol.
 
indischI said:
I agree the TK1/Tk2 are a thinner edge and may be what I'm looking for. I just wonder how the new F1 Pro edge compares to the original F1. I'd like to get the benefits of the Laminated CoS and a little thinner edge than the original F1. The pictures look thinner but what has been your experience?
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The geometry of the very cutting edge feels like the F1 Pro is slightly thinner than my VG-10 F1.
It bites deeper into wood than the F1.

When I get a new knife, I mostly thin the edge until it bites wood with as little resistance as the grind permits.
I have done that also to the F1 Pro and it's better than the VG-10 F1, but the F1 3G is better than the F1 Pro.

I think it's mostly about how the user shapes the edge, rather than what edge it has right out of the box.

If I compare my Fällkniven 4" models with a thinly ground convex blade like the Hess Tiburon, there's a clear difference.
The Tiburon is a dedicated slicer in 1095 carbon steel and it bites wood really deep.
Too deep I think, because it doesn't break away the woodchips as easily as a thicker geometry.
This could be cured by giving the edge a slightly thicker edgeprofile, but I like it as it is.
It's good to have knives with differrent properties.

For being marketed as a thick survival knife, the F1 Pro of course has plenty of rough cutting power but also possibility for more detailed work.


Regards
Mikael
 
Good info Mikael.

I didn't know the F1 3g had a different grind than the standard F1.
 
retzius said:
Good info Mikael.

I didn't know the F1 3g had a different grind than the standard F1.
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Well, they are handshaped, so it can be an individual difference.
I could be wrong, but I believe the F1 3G's are generally made thinner than the VG-10 version.


Regards
Mikael
 
Mikael, how is the weight of the F1 Pro compared to the standard F1? I can tell the difference between the standard and
my micarta F1s.

This is my regular "beater/user" F1. It took me quite some time to put my F1 together the exactly way I wanted.
Another reason why I am on the fence about pursuing the F1 Pro. Well, that plus the fact that no US dealers have them yet. LOL

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That looks great Ken. I do the same with that bright white logo on my SOG sheaths!
 
KenHash said:
Mikael, how is the weight of the F1 Pro compared to the standard F1? I can tell the difference between the standard and
my micarta F1s.

This is my regular "beater/user" F1. It took me quite some time to put my F1 together the exactly way I wanted.
Another reason why I am on the fence about pursuing the F1 Pro. Well, that plus the fact that no US dealers have them yet. LOL
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Ken, at 182 gram, the Pro is an oz more than the F1.
With the F1 and a multitool You are very well equipped.
I don't see any real need to change that from a user perspective.

I can't say I need the F1 Pro, but it's always fun to play with new toys!:)
For work a Mora + a multitool is what I need, but a wellmade knife in a good steel is a joy to use.

Regards
Mikael
 
I generally keep an eye open for opportunities to use mine.... And then I ask myself if the scenario is reasonable to use a knife. If those things = yes, I don't hesitate to use my edc.
I never worry about the edge. I can resharpen easily.
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Good point Steve!

Whenever I can, I try to downsize my tools after what I'm expecting to do.

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Right now I'm experimenting with the Juni instead of the F1 Pro and choose the PS4 Squirt instead of the Charge TTI.
The DC3 instead of the CC4 stone.
Smaller and sometimes a more proper set-up for the job.

Take a look at the Juni, it's almost a miniature of the F1 Pro!
It has a 0,125" thick spine and by thinning the edge, it's possible to get a thin Fällkniven slicer, for those who wants a thin edge.


Regards
Mikael
 
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