Fallkniven VG-10 vs. CS San Mai VG-1

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by penetrator, Jul 22, 2010.

  1. penetrator

    penetrator

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    Jul 21, 2010
    Hey everyone,

    I was wondering how these steels compare. From what I gather they are very similar. I read somewhere that VG-1 is the "little brother" of VG-10, VG-10 being somewhat tougher and more corrosion resistant. But how does this translate to practical use? Are both equally prone to chipping?

    The actual knives I'm trying to decide between are the San Mai Trail Master and the Fallkniven A2. Pros/Cons? I know the Fallkniven is of better general quality, better handle, etc.
     
  2. raylaconico

    raylaconico

    Jan 30, 2004
    I have knives in VG-1 and VG-10 (not sanmai) and I can't tell any difference in regular everyday use. They are very close. I suggest you base your decision on the knife design rather than the steel because that's probably the only difference that really matters between these two knives.
     
  3. NorCalMtn2

    NorCalMtn2

    650
    Jan 6, 2009
    I think you answered your own question.
     
  4. penetrator

    penetrator

    41
    Jul 21, 2010
    I actually do lean strongly towards the Fallkniven, but if it should come to light that the San Mai is less prone to chipping, I'd have to rethink. No matter how careful I will be, I know eventually it's gonna hit something hard :rolleyes:
     
  5. buyer5207

    buyer5207

    112
    Mar 30, 2010
    As long as you dont do anything stupid they shouldn't chip such as hitting a rock with your knife. Personally I like the falkniven.
     
  6. marcinek

    marcinek Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 9, 2007
    Then I'd go with a less expensive knife then either of those.

    If you don't intend on chopping gravel, cinder blocks, etc, I'd go Fallkniven. World class knife.
     
  7. rifon2

    rifon2

    Oct 9, 2005
    Go for the Fallkniven.

    I have a couple of F1's in VG-10, and I had (and sold) a CS Master Hunter in VG-1 San Mai.
    The CS is a very good knife, but the F1 is better IMO.
     
  8. CoreyI35

    CoreyI35

    53
    Apr 20, 2010
    They are made in the same factory in Japan.
     
  9. Hitzy

    Hitzy

    185
    Jul 14, 2010
    VG1 is closer to AUS10, which is a decent steel.
    VG10 has cobalt and vandium added, increasing strength and hardness, and is an excellent steel.
     
  10. AF

    AF Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    The Fallkniven handle is less tacky so it won't irritate your hand like the CS.
    The handle on my Carbon V TM slid off when I removed the thong hole liner. (I was putting on wood scales).
    I once started to remove the rubber handle on a Fallkniven and noticed that it had some kind of superior attachment technology. I'm not making this up.
     
  11. Dag-nabit

    Dag-nabit

    Jan 6, 2009
    I've no experience with VG1 , and I think what needs to be said has already been said.

    I have plenty of experience with Fallkniven and I'm very confident recommending their knives.

    Kevin
     
  12. knarfeng

    knarfeng senex morosus moderator Staff Member Super Mod Moderator

    Jul 30, 2006
    Welcome to BladeForums, Penetrator.

    VG-1 is an alloy.
    VG-10 is a similar alloy with quite similar edge retention properties.

    Fallkniven makes knives with both VG-10 and laminated VG-10
    Cold Steel makes knives with both VG-1 and laminated VG-1 (San MAi)

    The laminated version of either steel will have superior toughness to the un-laminated version of either. Laminating the steel will have no effect on the edge retention.


    I cannot tell the difference in edge retention between the two un-laminated steels, even when doing side-by-side manila rope cutting comparisons.
     

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