Fallniven F1 made in Japan?

Originally posted by Alberta Ed
The point being...?

I wasn't making a point, I was asking a simple question. Since I just recently became aware of these nice knives (relatively),I have been doing a bit of research as I was thinking of acquiring one model or another. As their company is in Sweden, this knife is used by the Swedish military, and various other indications, I assumed they were made in Sweden. Until I ran across this: http://www.canit.se/~griffon/knives/fallkniven/fallkniven_f1.html

If there's a point, I guess that's it. ;-) Did you have a point to make?

John in Boise, who, being new to the forum, has a lot more questions than points to make.
 
Originally posted by Alberta Ed
The point being...?

I think that since Fallkniven makes a lot of noise about being the national knife of Sweden that people are surprised to find out they are made in Japan.
 
Originally posted by fishbulb
I think that since Fallkniven makes a lot of noise about being the national knife of Sweden that people are surprised to find out they are made in Japan.


Well, I'm certainly one of those. Seems like they make a big show of Swedish-ness and I was certainly convinced. The fact that some of their knives are made in Japan will not deter me from buying one, after much of the information I've gathered, but it was, in fact, rather surprising. How many of their offerings are made in Japan?

John In Boise
 
i have contacted through e-mail with FALLKNIVEN's administrator,he tell me F1 truly furniture sweden airforce,MC1 actually be used in afghanistan battlefield.
 
Where is the Fallkniven Mine Clearance knife made? I've been thinking of getting one, although I don't think it's important that it be manufactured in Sweden.
 
japan,you can see my MC1's pictures in my "re-post my MC1's pictures "subject in this forums,i think it's a good knife for you.:)
 
Ichor,
How many of their offerings are made in Japan?
All their knives are made by Japanese cooperators, with no exclusions. Kydex sheaths are made in America, leather ones – if I remember well – in Spain.
The company – all design, drawing, name, trademark, etc., etc. owner – is Swedish. Is this something strange? I think it isn’t. This is international cooperation. A lot of American companies made their knives in Japan, Taiwan or China and this doesn’t look strange as well as doesn’t make them less American.
 
Thanks lachine. There are some knives that just make me tremble with lust and the MC-1 is one of them.

I also collect books and manuals on explosive ordnance, ammunition, and landmines. I recently bought the Brassey landmine book which shows you how to disarm nearly every antipersonnel mine there is (not that I'm going to volunteer to do this).
 
Originally posted by Sergiusz Mitin
Ichor, All their knives are made by Japanese cooperators, with no exclusions.
I think if you want VG-10 steel, the knife <em>has</em> to be made in Japan. Any known counterexamples?
 
Originally posted by Silver Puss
I recently bought the Brassey landmine book which shows you how to disarm nearly every antipersonnel mine there is (not that I'm going to volunteer to do this).

C'mon, that would be lots of fun...
Seriously... it would...

I'd do it in a New York minute!
 
Originally posted by Griffon
I think if you want VG-10 steel, the knife <em>has</em> to be made in Japan. Any known counterexamples?

You are right. No VG-10 outside of Japan. There's a Fällkniven forum at knifeforums.com where Peter (owner of Fällkniven) explains why he has the knives made in Japan.
Can't remember the exact thread, though.

The best
Bo
 
large manufacturing facilities with the technical proficiency, volume capability and the material connections are actually very rare and far in between. As many manufacturers find that manufacturing is their forte and marketing and sales are less attractive, they many times dispense with that part of business alltogether.

Along comes a small or smaller company which have people for marketing and sales, but haven't the money to set up a manufacturing facility. Perhaps the company's offerings are too diverse to set up manufacturing facilities for all, or even part of their products. Sometimes it's a large company which needs just a few components for their final products.

Example... Tag Heur, Luminox- markets watches, contracts all their products to other manufacturing facilities.

Example... The Sharper Image, Brookstones- sells products made by everyone else, just with its logo pasted on somewhere.

Example... IBM, Apple Computers- are in the business of making computers, so parts, such as LCD screens, Li-Ion Batteries and Processer Chips are all purchased elsewhere.

The funny thing is, sometimes you can look at two competing products which seem different, you don't realize that the chances of them coming out of the same factory, made by the same machines, only hours apart, are actually very high.
 
there are only 2 MC1 in China.few like MC1 in Chinese knifeforums.they say this knife is no utinity
:( ,it's same that few like it in bladeforums.i'm sad.many China knife lover tell me they prefer A1,NL1.
 
Originally posted by Sergiusz Mitin
Ichor, All their knives are made by Japanese cooperators, with no exclusions. Kydex sheaths are made in America, leather ones – if I remember well – in Spain.
The company – all design, drawing, name, trademark, etc., etc. owner – is Swedish. Is this something strange? I think it isn’t. This is international cooperation. A lot of American companies made their knives in Japan, Taiwan or China and this doesn’t look strange as well as doesn’t make them less American.


First off, no one said that it looks "strange", I simply said that I was unaware that the knives were not made in Sweden. So, I fail to understand why you seem to be defending Fallkniven as if I had criticized them in some way. I asked a simple question to which I did not know the answer.

As to whether "American" products are less American if made in Japan, Taiwan, or China, I'm afraid I must respectfully diagree. To my mind, "Made in U.S.A" means *exactly* that and if it's made in another country, to the specifications of an American country, then it most definitely is less American.

Furthermore, now that I know Fallkniven knives are all made in Japan I see them as "less" Swedish than, say, a knife made in Mora by Swedes. I'm fully aware of the international nature of business and manufacturing, in today's economy, but Made in U.S.A (or Sweden) still has meaning for me. YMMV.

John in Boise
 
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