Fallniven F1 made in Japan?

Lachine,
I have got exact answer that all Fallkniven be made by coldsteel
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Nope, Cold Steel does not make any knives by themselves at all. Some of their knives are made in Japan, some – in America by Camillus.
First Fällknivens were made by Linder in Solingen (Germany). Peter Hjortberger was not satisfied with execution quality and turned production to some factories in Seky City (Japan).
Believe me or not but this is the first-hand info obtained directly from Peter.

Ichor,
So, I fail to understand why you seem to be defending Fallkniven as if I had criticized them in some way
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I’m not defending because they do not need my defense at least. I’m just explaining – a lot of difference between these items, isn’t it?
To my mind, "Made in U.S.A" means *exactly* that and if it's made in another country, to the specifications of an American country, then it most definitely is less American
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No one of American knife manufacturers I’m familiar with are writing “Made in U.S.A.” on their blades if they are made in Japan, Taiwan or China. This is just me but I consider Japan (or Taiwan) made SPYDERCO knives or Taivan made CRKT knives as American knives as well as Japan made Fällkniven knives as Swedish ones. They are not the same item as for example Taiwan made Böker knives or especially no-name Taiwan made knives. Taiwanese level of technology and industrialization allows making production on each imaginable level of quality. All depends on what level of quality purchaser requires.

If you do not believe me please take off the cover of your computer and look where the most of parts are made. The knife is much less accomplished item than computer...
 
Originally posted by Sergiusz Mitin
Lachine, Nope, Cold Steel does not make any knives by themselves at all. Some of their knives are made in Japan, some – in America by Camillus.
First Fällknivens were made by Linder in Solingen (Germany). Peter Hjortberger was not satisfied with execution quality and turned production to some factories in Seky City (Japan).
Believe me or not but this is the first-hand info obtained directly from Peter.

Ichor, I’m not defending because they do not need my defense at least. I’m just explaining – a lot of difference between these items, isn’t it? No one of American knife manufacturers I’m familiar with are writing “Made in U.S.A.” on their blades if they are made in Japan, Taiwan or China. This is just me but I consider Japan (or Taiwan) made SPYDERCO knives or Taivan made CRKT knives as American knives as well as Japan made Fällkniven knives as Swedish ones. They are not the same item as for example Taiwan made Böker knives or especially no-name Taiwan made knives. Taiwanese level of technology and industrialization allows making production on each imaginable level of quality. All depends on what level of quality purchaser requires.

If you do not believe me please take off the cover of your computer and look where the most of parts are made. The knife is much less accomplished item than computer...
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Please stop putting words in my mouth, Serg. Again you are defending against criticisms that were not made.

I am well aware that there are many fine products made in other countries. And that many, many products made by U.S companies contain parts that were made in another country. I am aware that Japan and Taiwan can produce to specifications on virtually any level of sophistication. You have missed my point entirely on both posts.

I also didn't say that American knife manufacturers are writing “Made in U.S.A.” on their blades if they are made in Japan, Taiwan or China. I said that "Made in U.S.A" still means something to me. If it means nothing to you ( being from another country there's no reason why it should), fine, but please stop misquoting me.

Read my posts and think about what I actually said before you jump to conclusions and start treating me like I'm ignorant or stupid. I am 57 years old and been in business for myself for nearly 40 of those years. I don't need anyone to "explain" global economy.

John in Boise
 
John,
No intentions to “jump on you treating as ignorant or stupid” or “explaining global economy”. No intentions to put the words into your mouth.
Also no intentions to misquote your posts because I have nothing against you personally nor I have any covert agenda for Fällkniven, SPYDERCO, CRKT or any other company or person.

I’m just answering your posts the way I understand them (btw also not been teenager).
Excuse me, please, if I have understood them wrong way and offended you personally anyway.
 
Originally posted by Sergiusz Mitin
John,
No intentions to “jump on you treating as ignorant or stupid” or “explaining global economy”. No intentions to put the words into your mouth.
Also no intentions to misquote your posts because I have nothing against you personally nor I have any covert agenda for Fällkniven, SPYDERCO, CRKT or any other company or person.

I’m just answering your posts the way I understand them (btw also not been teenager).
Excuse me, please, if I have understood them wrong way and offended you personally anyway.
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No problem, Serg, maybe I'm too sensitive. Or maybe I'm not being as articulate as I should. Or both. We're cool. ;-)

John in boise
 
Hi Ichor. just some additioal information for your file of facts.

About 800 AD, the swordmakers of Japan began migrating to the Gifu mountains in the middle of Japan. The soil had good iron content, the Nagaragawa and Kisogawa rivers provided much needed water and the mountains provided nice breezes. They made Samurai swords there for about 1000 years. This area later became known as Seki-City, the sword capitol of Japan, and many of the towns people were involved in the making of steel cutting things. In the mid 1800's when guns became the preferred method of killing, samurai swords became an artifact controlled by the government and are still controlled to this day by a very intricate management system. Many of the makers turned to knife making. There are few knife craftsmen in the world that are as good in the knife arena.

VG-10 was created by a small Japanese foundry and was introduced to the world of grafting plants. Spyderco tested the steel, found it favorable and introduced the steel to the market with Moran design in the mid 90's. Fallkniven tested the Moran and decided to make their knives with the same maker out of the same steel.

Spyderco also has VG-10 on hand in the Golden factory. We made a short run (23 pieces) of Keating Chinooks to see how the steel works. It is an excellent steel, but we are currently using CPM-S30V on our USA made models. We will more than likely make something with the VG-10 on hand in the future.

hope that helps.

sal
 
Thanks, Sal, I appreciate that info. I've been collecting Samurai swords for about thirty years. It wasn't until a joined this forum that I realized how many fine knives are made in Seki City.

John in Boise
 
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