Falwell is very sick

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hollowdweller

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Never really agreed with the man that much but he's been around as long as I can remember. I believe he is in critical condition. If he's not going to be all messed up hope he pulls thru.
 
I heard that too, HD. While i don't wish sickness or death on anyone, i really can't say that i have ever agreed with him on things. He takes being a Christian to the extreme. Now HE is a right winger to be sure. I look at politics the same way i look at religion. They are both kind of like using a buffer to wax your car. Too far to the left/too little speed and pressure, you're just going to spread stuff around and make a big mess. To far to the right/too much speed and pressure, you're going to take it down to the bare metal. Neither one does Joe Average's car (or nation or faith) any real good. JF takes his views past the bare metal and about halfway into the engine block;) I still hope me makes it out ok. Loon or not, the man doesn't deserve to die.

Jake
 
I've never thought one way or another about him. He's said some stupid things. Join the club- the human club. He's also done some good things.




munk
 
I was essentially sympathetic until he said America had brought attack on itself by being tolerant toward gays. :mad:

I guess I should just pity such ignorance, but I'm not there, yet.

John
 
This is one of those times that, "If you can't say something nice it's better to say nothing at all." ;)

I have never had any sympathy, or compassion, for the likes of Falwell and/or his ilk. And that's the kindest thing I can say.:footinmou
 
I never really cared about Falwell one way or another- just another duplicitous gasbag- until the 9/11 comment. I loathe the man. I wonder what he did to bring his illness on himself? :rolleyes:

Jeremy

EDIT- Ah, Yvsa and I posted at the same time. I should take his advice more often. :)
 
Yvsa said:
This is one of those times that, "If you can't say something nice it's better to say nothing at all."
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Yvsa
My Mom used to tell me the same thing when I was little. She is gone now but it is still a very good rule to follow in life.


Semp
 
My mouth is shut tight...but only because Bill is watching.

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Nasty, I like the new sig line... one must change them from time to time; like framed art.

"Holy Toledo" is appropriate as a mild epithet- the best Spanish swords came from Toledo in med. times. Bill probably (oh, well, maybe) chose it for that reason.

Here's hoping Jerry pulls through, and returns to preaching on TV soon.

No, I won't watch or send money. I don't agree with his messages.


Ad Astra
 
I'll send some smoke, just cause someone should.

Sometimes really difficult people are that way for a reason, and it is a reason we will probably never know.
 
Ah- thank you. This is the spirit we need.

Love your enemy. Only he should only be "your enemy" in his own mind.

John, knowing & doing not the same... :(
 
I'm rather sorry this thread was introduced. I'm not up for a thread about a terminally ill person who will then become a fulcrum point for dislike and stereotyped anger and resentment. I don't need that now, and I rather doubt many of you do either. Further, as Bill just passed away, I don't appreciate the juxaposition this thread offers- a sympathetic disease for an unsympathetic person; now weigh in. Yikes. What purpose does this possibly serve? Are we enlisting in the 'bad cancer victims' and 'good cancer victims' league now?

I suspect most of the Falwell dislike is based upon an image- what he represents to you. I have no interest in Falwell. As a matter of fact, none of the Christians I know in the rural west do. But I've heard him speak in various news venues on TV enough to know he is not an 'evil' man.

His statement about 9-11 was nonsense. However, I doubt many of you have not wished ill upon some feature of the American cultural landscape yourselves at one time or another- or even assigned blame. I know I have.

We say stupid things. That is life. My father once opined the Catholics were attempting world domination through unrestricted births. (he was in his 20's)

I respect the 'no comments' .
I suspect there is much good Falwell has done that many are not aware of. He may be the media's whipping boy on the 'christian right' but he is not mine. And I don't feel like whipping anyone right now. I'm grieving, and that is where it is really at; not with Jerry Falwell and not in this thread.

That is my view. Being disgusted about Falwell allows us not to think of other things. That's also life, and grief. There is another thread right now that allows this tension relief without focusing on an individual, and that is healthier for me, at least. ( the excellent work one and need to pray offerred by Yvsa)


munk
 
munk said:
I'm rather sorry this thread was introduced. I'm not up for a thread about a terminally ill person who will then become a fulcrum point for dislike and stereotyped anger and resentment.
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Me too. I kind of posted it because he has always kind of been part of the culture, not really to stir up strife.

Like you say, all of us have said stupid stuff before, and stuff we regreted. I hate to see anyone suffer, and hope he's remembered ultimately for his intentions rather than his statements.
 
I guess. I just see that old people, a lot of them think differently about stuff. It's not that they are bad it's just that it is real hard for any of us to really kind of rise above our times. My grandma told me one time she thought it was wrong for people of difft. races to date or marry. Now I think that is racist. On the other hand she never grew up exposed to any of that. She doesn't hate people of difft. races, she's real religious and she's 90 years old. I think it's possible for someone to think above their times but it's doesn't often happen.

There is a great quote in the book "How To Meditate" by Lawrence Le Shan. It is a fantastic book on meditation that strips away a lot of the superstition, but anyway it is talking about some of the superstition in meditation and I really think it applies:

" It must not be forgotten that the mystical schools were begun and developed by some of the greatest of our race, men of courage, wisdom and insight. However it must also not be forgotten that these men grew up in primitive societies, where thinking was shot through with magical ideas, and generally pretty concreteistic. No one really transcends the limitation of his society, although the great minds see somewhat beyond it and help the society progress to new levels"

I got this book when I was 18, I'm 45 now and over and over when dealing with older people or my own prejudices or perceptions I come back to that quote. :D
 
"If you can't say something nice it's better to say nothing at all"

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<my condolences to those who will miss him, may they offer me and mine the same is such times.>
 
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to PherrousWeal again.
 
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