fatherhudson; maybe somebody to avoid?

Danbo

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First off, I want to say that I'm not out any money or knives, etc... Just my time and efforts in trying to help out somebody. (well, maybe money that I could spend at Blade, but WTF)

fatherhudson posts in the wanted section that he's looking for a ZT 0550, badly. I happen to have one, so I send him a friendly PM informing that I have one and shoot him a very fair price for the NIB knife. He replies right away, saying something about how he wishes I had contacted him earlier, as he just got through buying one for a higher price elsewhere. A little later, he sends me a link to the thread he started in the good, bad and ugly area, about the problems he's having with the seller. http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/955312-Amazon-seller-Thompson-Tools He also asks me if I would be willing to hold the ZT 0550 for him, while he tries to get a refund, so he can buy mine. I say, sure, I will hold it for you, as long as you commit to the deal.

Meanwhile, the drama of his good, bad, ugly thread goes on and on. Heck, he even refers to me in the thread, saying something like, "I've got a chance to buy one here, from a reputable forum member". So, I wait. Then, a day or so later, he sends me another PM, telling me that if I want to sell the ZT 0550 to somebody else, it's cool, because it might be awhile before he gets his money back from the other seller. Again, I'm not in a hurry, necessarily, and I am going on the assumption that he and I had a deal, so I reply back that I can wait a little longer. I tell him that I can wait another 10 days or so, and then I'll seek other offers. No reply from fatherhudson this time. :confused:

Then, I notice in his good, bad and ugly thread, that he finally gets the seller to refund not only his money, but the return shipping, too. :thumbup:, right?

Noticing that he's now got his money back, and can now fulfill our deal, I send him a PM, inquiring as to when he might send payment for the ZT 0550. No reply. No reply. No reply. :confused: It's now been a few days, and I've noticed that he's been online plenty of times, since I sent my PM, but still no replies. ???

If fatherhudson has changed his mind about buying my ZT 0550, you'd at least think he'd have the common courtesy to reply and tell me as much. I could be reading more into this than is actual reality, but I think the lack of communication speaks for itself. I know I don't treat people this way, so I expect others to do the same. Communication is the key in all transactions.
 
This is obviously a miscommunication. I haven't read the above post very well but everthing seems to be accurate. I did ask you to hold the knife for 24 hours. after about 24 hours when I still had no idea if i was going to get my money refunded or not i messaged you back and told you what was going on, thanked you for holding the knife and told you that you should post it on the exchange because i didn't know when my situation was going to be resolved (if ever). Apparently you sent me another message after this saying you'd hold it longer but i honestly did not see this message. I didn't know you still thought i was going to buy it. I'm sorry this didn't work out for you especially since you obviously had such good intentions of helping another guy out but in the future i'd recommend sending a second message when someone doesn't reply. once again, I'm sorry.
 
Oh and i would have appreciated finding out there was a problem from you instead of a message from another forum member who saw this thread.
 
fatherhudson said:
Oh and i would have appreciated finding out there was a problem from you instead of a message from another forum member who saw this thread.
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You didn't read the original post here in this thread? I sent PMs; you didn't answer. That was the whole point I was making. Communication is everything. I can only send so many PMs, before giving up.
 
Danbo said:
... a day or so later, he sends me another PM, telling me that if I want to sell the ZT 0550 to somebody else, it's cool
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Sounds like he was pretty straight-forward with you and told you clearly you could sell the knife. Actually, it looks like he kept you up to date on his situation and gave you the green light to sell. That's pretty good, as far as I can tell.

... I am going on the assumption that he and I had a deal
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One probably shouldn't assume things or base transactions on assumptions, especially not when he tells you clearly that you can sell. If this was to try to get people to distrust him, I think it's not valid... or fair, frankly.
 
Sounds like Communication failure and that's a point made over and over. If you are "talking" to someone about a possible deal read every PM/E-mail/SMS carefullyand answer every one.
But Geeze, you want a knife badly, get offered one at a good price, why not make certain your communications with said person contain no holes, gaps, misteps, missed messages, alleged missed messages.............................well, you get the message!!!!
 
I think the point here is that the would-be buyer never initiated this. This was all Danbo. And the real reason he's upset is that he went out of his way--in his mind--to "help" someone who didn't take it very seriously. But so what? That's not a reason to publicly lambast someone. He kept you up to date, told you what his plans were, and made a decision. He told you that you could sell. You responded that you would hold for 10 days, blah blah, whatever. But he already told you that you could sell. He had no obligation to write anything to you after that.
 
Magnaminous_G said:
I think the point here is that the would-be buyer never initiated this. This was all Danbo. And the real reason he's upset is that he went out of his way--in his mind--to "help" someone who didn't take it very seriously. But so what? That's not a reason to publicly lambast someone. He kept you up to date, told you what his plans were, and made a decision. He told you that you could sell. You responded that you would hold for 10 days, blah blah, whatever. But he already told you that you could sell. He had no obligation to write anything to you after that.
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You're wrong; plain and simple. He failed to answer PMs and left me hanging and that's about all there is to this. I'm done with it.
 
Magnaminous_G said:
I think the point here is that the would-be buyer never initiated this. This was all Danbo. And the real reason he's upset is that he went out of his way--in his mind--to "help" someone who didn't take it very seriously. But so what? That's not a reason to publicly lambast someone. He kept you up to date, told you what his plans were, and made a decision. He told you that you could sell. You responded that you would hold for 10 days, blah blah, whatever. But he already told you that you could sell. He had no obligation to write anything to you after that.
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Thanks Dr. for your analysis, but I think you have analyzed the wrong thread.
 
Generally speaking I have some difficulty with posting details about a person to person deal that did not happen, even if it may have caused me some frustration and/or investment of time. If it were to happen multiple times from the same person or was some clear example of getting strung along intentionally and dishonestly then that's another kettle of fish. This doesn't strike me as that kind of situation.

I don't begrudge Danbo feeling bothered or annoyed with what happened but I do disagree with the choice to lay it out publicly in this case.
 
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