Fear of Customs?

I buy both custom and production knives. I generally base my purchases on a "price vs. performance" basis. Some customs are close to production prices; that's an easy choice. My main interest right now is sheer cutting performance. Many production knives meet this criteria.
 
I'd agree with others in that it has much to do with waiting times and costs.At present, I've only had two customs and to be totally honest, I was underwhelmed by the F&F of both in comparison to the productions I normally carry. From a point of owning something very exclusive, you can't beat owning a custom. But, in terms of real-world value, there are plenty of companies that offer incredible value and performance relative to price, something custom makers simply can't compete with. This might sound odd, but I don't think "carrying" a knife in your pocket is automatically the same as "using" a knife that's in your pocket and my knives aren't meant to be jewelry. For day to day use, productions work fine for me.
 
1. I can't afford them, I know if I sold off several production knives or just didn't buy any new ones for a month or two I could, but what fun is that?

2. I like near instant gratification, waiting isn't any fun and I might not even be around by the time some customs are scheduled to be finished.

3. I use my knives pretty hard by BF standards, alot of the people here don't have jobs that require them to use a knife for tasks that may damage their knives, they just carry it and use it lightly and carefully for mundane tasks. I have a need to break down cardboard, cut rope, tubing, packing straps, shave wood, lunch, ect. and all my carry knives show wear pretty quickly. I don't even like to use $100 production knives if there is a strong risk of losing them or damaging them. I know I would only use a custom folder lightly and carefully so I would have to carry an extra knife for the dirty work.

4. Still loving productions here, why spend more if you are happy with what you can get for less, it is like buying a Corvette when you are happy with your old truck.

5. I have a thing for old knives so that takes up most of my yearning.

I do own one custom fixed blade and I am very happy with it. I had to get it bare bones and without any handle scales so I could afford it, I still payed more than I would for a nice production but I don't regret it and I am sure I will get a custom slip-joint some day, just don't have the money right now.
 
I have a couple of custom knives, but nothing that a true collector would be interested in. As others have mentioned, I use my knives and so how they work is more important than the stamp on the blade. Interestingly though, I recently traded a longbow for a cool looking little fixed blade with mammoth tooth scales and since I got it, it's been sitting in my gunsafe....too expensive and purdy to use! I hate that......
 
Cost primarily.

I do own a custom folder; it was made by Keith Coleman here in Albuquerque.

Being able to head over to his place and talk to him face to face was a great experience!

I'm not sure that I would order a custom without dealing with the knifemaker in person.

Right now cost is the big reason that I carry a Queen slipjoint and not a custom slippie.
 
I only collect users but if I were to collect safe queens, the biggest thing would be a kind of set worth with knives that are the same. It's harder to place a value on unknowns. I prefer to use customs that are tailored to my taste.
 
I have nothing at all against customs. It's just that Busse Combat satisfies all of my knife-buying needs, and that is the area in which my knife-collecting knowledge lies. At this point, it is hard to imagine a fixed-blade knife need scenario that I couldn't satisfy with a trip to my Busse closet, with one exception, a small to medium size semi-skinner pattern. Thus, if I ever buy a custom fixed-blade, that is what it will be.
 
The high quality and variety in production knives makes buying customs harder an harder to justify . Mine are pretty much all gone now except for a few sentimental pieces . I would rather use the hell out of something replaceable , rathe than a one of a kind piece of artwork .

Chris
 
My opinion might change in the future, but right now I don't see a reason why I should go custom while I can order Fehrmans, Fällknivens, CRs and Busses. I must admit that my knowledge on customs is limited, but comparing my top knives with customs from my compadres, I have yet to find a custom that can beat my Fehrman FJ.
 
To me a knife is either a tool or a work of art. That beautiful Damascus (above) can be stuffed in a safe and 200 years from now it will still be worthy of appearing in a magazine. When I was a teenager, my mother used to buy me glossy paged books with color photos of armor. Later, I traveled to the U.K. and visited castles that displayed armor. Not unusually, those who could afford it bought armor that not only was efficient, but beautiful. Some had intricate designs; others were silvery and polished, but they were astounding.

Some people like quality, and they spend extra money for Sebenzas and other fine knives that, to me, are well made but lack beauty. Others buy knives they'll never actually use, but will keep in a safe. And still others, like me, will just buy production knives because they represent utility. (Okay, I have a few Damascus knives, but they're surprisingly inexpensive. I got them on eBay and have no intention of using them for anything other than looking at them. But the cost was like fifty bucks, shipped.)

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These are all heavy knives and are frankly breathtaking, plus they were inexpensive. The production knives I use sharpen quickly, are tough and will last for decades. Each person has their individual likes and dislikes. Last night, I spend almost twenty minutes putting a decent edge on a premium knife blade. To me, that's too long to spend, so I gravitate to knives that are easy to sharpen, even in the field (though I don't usually have to do that).

I don't need custom knives, though if I had the money, I'd buy them. But I think I do well with the money I am allotted. Alas, I live in a world of Zytel and AUS8, and I survive just fine. I checked the recent stimulus package and there were no earmarks for me to buy anything better. So until there are, it's just me and my Cold Steel Gunsite.

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As production knives go, it's hard to beat knives like this
Buck Alaskan Vanguard.
 
I cant afford most customs, especially the folders. (being in scouts I find more use for folders because fixed blades arent allowed)
 
The big thing with me is the interaction with the knifemakers, the planning, the pics while they are in progress, picking handle materials, steels, blade styles, gaurd materials (if its a fixed blade) and just making what I WANT. I cant do that with a production, I just look for production knives that have MOST of what I want.

I do hate the waiting time, but its nice sometimes because it allows you to save and get funds together for something which you might not be able to afford at that moment. Talking on the phone or through email is half the fun, you get to learn alot doing that.

Never a more true statement.

The fun is the wait (anticipation) and getting to know the people. Obviously you have to do your homework and find good folks.

You need to find folks who make what you like and treat you right and develop a give and take relationship. You give them money and good natured greif and they give you the fun of the process, a little grief, and a product that totally suits you. If you can get that relationship established you might even end up with a friend to go with your killer blades. :thumbup:

Now, with all that said, I like production knives too. I just find them a little less fulfilling. I find myself setting lofty goals (like finding super rare knives) but feel less fulfilled at the end of the hunt. You get the knife, but there is alot less of yourself in it.

Ultimately the most sage advice that can be given on this topic is "do what makes you feel good"....... you are going to find folks doing it both ways (or a mix of the 2) and having a helluva good time doing it.:thumbup:
 
The interaction with the makers IS the best part, along with the friendships that develops.
 
I cant afford most customs, especially the folders. (being in scouts I find more use for folders because fixed blades arent allowed)

Wow- I never knew that they aren't allowed, I thought that they were just discouraged- Wow:thumbdn:

I wonder what they would say if you pulled a Rajah II out and then a Micro Canadian?
 
Customs definitely gives you a level of satisfaction that a production can't. I had the honor of having David Mirabile make one of his Neo-Tribal knives. Sketched out my own variation of it and he interpreted it perfectly. Hand forged with his own made damascus. It truly gives you a sense of privilege to interact with such a gifted artisan.

I hope to do it again in the near future. If you have not seen some of David's work you can see them at TADGEAR

http://www.tadgear.com/edged tools/custom knives/david_mirabile1.htm
 
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