fehrman hunting blades

i just hope that a steel company realizes one day what a stainless version of 3v would be like in folding knives. EPIC
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I've read that S30V was originally supposed to be this very steel. Enough knifemakers wanted it too, and as good as 3V is it sounds great. "Stainless" and "tough as 3V" are a sort of contradiction though. Devin Thomas was, or is making a damascus with 3V and ? stainless that is supposed to be good, but expensive.
 
Batoning with a rock...just can't get past that. Sorry. Otherwise, for your usage, in 3V, I'd go with a Last Chance. Also, look at Koster knives. Specifically, the Utility series.
 
Well if you hunt alot way out away from your camp and vehicle, sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. We also carry our deer out on our backs like an actual back pack. Might be other ways of doing things, but my family has done it like this for a few generations now. I just think some tools can handle things others cant, and a knife is a tool to a hunter. No problem with you not doing that. Im sure not very many people will carry out a deer the way we do either. These aren't small white tails either, but rather big desert mule deer. I put my thru hiker through some hell, with a hammer, and now im not afraid to use a small rock or heavy baton on one to split a pelvic bone.
 
I have a PM but not a SS from Fehrman, so I can't comment between the 2, but the PM is one of the best ergonomic knives I've ever held, and the 3V steel is truly phenomenal. S30V doesn't even come close, IMO. You'll love it!
 
So how does the peacemaker compare to the swamp rat hrlm ergonomically? That seems to be the best comparison, except 3v seems to be better steel. Im thinking of just ordering the peacemaker.
 
Popsickle said:
this is from the 3v datesheet on crucibles web site
http://www.crucible.com/eselector/prodbyapp/tooldie/cpm3vt.html

"CPM 3V is a high toughness, wear-resistant tool steel made by the Crucible Particle Metallurgy process. It is designed to provide maximum resistance to breakage and chipping in a high wear-resistance steel. It offers impact resistance greater than A2, D2, Cru-Wear, or CPM M4, approaching the levels provided by S7 and other shock resistant grades. CPM 3V is intended to be used at 58/60 HRC in applications where chronic breakage and chipping are encountered in other tool steels, but where the wear properties of a high alloy steel are required."


there are also videos on the internet where 3v knives are used to baton through wood and concrete and pry nailed together boards apart, as well as cut through sheet metal. all without chipping or any major damage to the blade that a quick cleaning and sharpening couldnt fix.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPgSOQY4CDk&feature=player_embedded this is a monkeyedge.com video on the strider DB in 3v. 3" blade at .19" thickness CPM-3v. all i could say is WOW when it was over.

i want a knife in this steel BAD and am also considering the fehrman peace maker as a fixed blade. Im really waiting on the spyderco TUFF just because i think it rediculous to make a folder in this steel.... im much more of a folder fan than a fixed blade fan.
The one thing that makes me upset is that when crucible set out to make s30v it was originally intended to be a STAINLESS version of 3v... then they got caught up in edge retention and bam todays s30v without the 3v properties :-(. Stainless 3v would be AMAZING.... but ill settle for almost stainless as it has TWICE the chromium of M4 and over 2 times as tough with d2-s30v edge retention. yeah ill take that any day.

you sir, ventured the wrong direction with your comments :-P
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Videos on the internet? Then it must be true:rolleyes: But to make this simple, e-mail the knifemakers mentioned and ask if they think it is okay to use their knives to baton through bone using a rock without expecting damage to the knife that could require more than a "quick cleaning or sharpening". If you get ONE of them to state that this is a safe or proper use of their knife (regardless of steel) please let us know. Otherwise, feel free to buy a 3V , S30V or other knife and bash it as you wish-it's your money.
 
kycolonel said:
Videos on the internet? Then it must be true:rolleyes: But to make this simple, e-mail the knifemakers mentioned and ask if they think it is okay to use their knives to baton through bone using a rock without expecting damage to the knife that could require more than a "quick cleaning or sharpening". If you get ONE of them to state that this is a safe or proper use of their knife (regardless of steel) please let us know. Otherwise, feel free to buy a 3V , S30V or other knife and bash it as you wish-it's your money.
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Jerry hossum actually already described 3v very accurately on the knifemakers forum.... do a qiuck search on the topic. I'm very excited to use this steel, and I HAVE done my homework on it, I suggest you do a little light reading on the subject matter before your next response.
 
Yup, besides, people may not like this, but i used a hammer to cut through some nails and other metal with my thru hiker. Guess what, very little damage. I sharpened it out, took a while, but not to bad. Why would I do this? Why not. Just to see how tough it really is. I wasnt going to send it in for warranty if I broke it, just deal with it. But I wasnt expecting it to break either. I havent tried it with my infi war dog, and I probably wont, the knife is to pretty. But my hrlm chipped out, and so did one of my tops knives in 1095. So far I am really impressed with this 3v. I ordered a short stop for use at work, and im probably going to order a peace maker today. Any one have pics of a peace maker next to an hrlm?
 
Here you go.

http://s137.photobucket.com/albums/q203/sodak_photos/inventory/?action=view&current=p1010007-3.jpg

I like both, but the PM a little better. I think the steel and ergonomics are better. Keep in mind it's not a very big knife, which works for me, the cutting edge on mine is about 3.5 inches.

I hear you on the hammer. I come from a very long line of midwestern farmers who are very rough on their tools, knives included. Getting the job done is generally the most important thing, especially when you are miles from a toolbox...
 
Sweet man thanks for the pics. I just ordered a peacemaker today. I love my hrlm, but I think i'll like this one more, better steel, and good ergos. Ideally I would really like a ratmandu in 3v, that would be my ideal knife.
 
Great choice rodriguez! I think a Peacemaker will be my next purchase. I own a L.Chance-really impressive knife. Don't understand why Fehrman's don't get more discussion on these forums.
 
Hi Rodriguez,

I have both of the knives, and a number of videos on them. I can do a comparison vid for you quickly if you want. I will say of both knives that their sharpness out of the box was nice, and they could cut well because of that... but... the edge spine was too thick for my tastes. I converted them both to convex bevels, knocking off the shoulder a little on the edge bevel. This increases their cutting performance a lot. The Fehrman Lastchance out of the box geometry is better than both of these, but I dont think its a great option for you.

both the PM and SS are 3/16 and very very solid, but still nice and lean.

any questions and hit me up, I'll try to answer them.
 
I’ve used my Peacemaker for processing animals. It works well. There are some designs and geometries that work better, but for overall tough usage, it fits the bill.

One thing I do like about 3V is its edge holding. In my experience, it is much better than any other carbon steel, that includes INFI.
As far as toughness goes, Fehrmans 3V is as good as it gets. The ability to hold an edge is what sets it apart from all the other “supersteels”.

The only other knife I like better for skinning is my Simonich Cuda Talonite blade. It slices forever without sharpening, but it won’t work well at all for splitting bone since its relatively soft. I can skin 3 full moose without touching up the blade.
 
Thanks for the responses guys. I just got my peace maker yesterday. It really is a nice knife. I put a convex edge on it, and now it is really sharp. Its a little smaller than I thought it would be, but it will be a good hunting blade. I think I probably should have bought the shadow scout instead though. It looks around the same size as my ratmandu. Im sure I will put this knife to work on my elk hunt this year though. Im happy with it so far, a little pricey compared to my other knives. Actually the most expensive I've ever bought.
 
Did you go with satin or black? I'm still tempted to get a SS also, and would like to custom order it with square edges so that I can better use a fire steel. That's about the only change that I'd make in it.
 
Congrats, now beat that spine with a rock! (if you still want to it's your knife)
 
Im sure I will when I kill my elk. Thats some thick bone to go through. Cant wait.
 
sodak said:
Did you go with satin or black? I'm still tempted to get a SS also, and would like to custom order it with square edges so that I can better use a fire steel. That's about the only change that I'd make in it.
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I went with the black coated version. Satin was just a bit to expensive.
 
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