Fehrman: Last Chance, what do you think?

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I've got well over 4000 posts here without a lie among them, and am not going to start by bashing an excellent steel, from a fine maker in a design I love.
It rusts, so you little fanboys can get over it.

Hey Owen..

You may not have one lie among them.. doesn't mean there is one truth among them either.. thats the problem with perception, and the problem with your perception based statement "corrodes easily"

Pehharps yours did rust.. perhaps you dont oil it enough.. I think the issue is you statement of "corrodes pretty easily" is what gets annoying.

My 7 CPM 3V blades have been used extensively on acidic foods, vinegar baths, normal use, cutting.. getting wet.. normal stuff with nothing more than basic maintenance, yet there is no patina, let alone rust on them.

so.. the question is.. Pretty easily compared to What? My 12c27 Stainless steel gets a patina faster than my 3v Knives.. I have 3v from Fehrman, Ranger, and Bark River. Not one of them can even form a patina in a 10 minute vinegar bath. other carbons like L6, A2, 1095 etc will form patina within and under 3 minutes. Many will get patina with a single cut of an onion. So Pretty Easily corroding is a crazy statement without adding boundaries of what you are comparing it to.

Busse INFI is Widely accepted as having amazing corrosian resistance on this forum. INFI is not a Stainless, but it sure acts like one in normal well maintained use.. Well.. so does CPM3V steel.. if it cannot for a patina in 10minutes with 100% white vinegar then its Stainless enough. in my book.
What you dont say is if your knife was in your house for 1 month, or 6 months. was it sitting in a leather sheath which acts as a dehumidifier and sucks moisture onto the blade.

You say that it corrodes easily and it sounds like it will rust in an eyeblink. I have Busse, Fehrman, Bark River among a number of other great blades in different steels. Mostly Carbon..

All carbon rusts.. this is correct. Patina is the first sign you get, before you ever get rusting of a damaging nature. I wont dispute that you may have had some rust on your fehrman.. but sometimes peoples perspectives are way out of kilter and the just dont realise the timeframes they are referring to.


The other simple fact that you, and others are forgetting is that you may see rust on a blade.. doesn't mean its from the blade rusting.. there can easily be fine surface particles of metal dust on a blade from sharpening or any other numerous reasons that can oxidise and rust in minutes and start effecting the blade.

The reality here is that 3V is listed as a highly stain resistant steel. more than D2. the proof is that this is correct. A statement saying yours rusted may not be a lie.. but is sure as hell is subjective and merits very little compared with the dozens of owners that dont sell them, and use them every day.

I'm not really interested in the Fanboy crap either. Thats the kind of swill people write to deflect from debating facts. Forget Fehrman.. Fehrman dont make CPM3V ... Crucible does.. We are talking about steels and facts when we talk about rust.. not brands.

If we are going to say that a Ferhman Rusts easily.. then we have to say that annecdotaly INFI must also rust easily.. as my resuslts in video recorded tests show them to be relatively equal in corrosian resistance.. they are both Carbon steels.
 
ditto to bearcut; after cutting mesquite for 35 min. i wiped blade on pants & left remaining residue for 36 hrs. before washing in the sink. there was no rust. while we're at this junction let me say i sliced up a lemon & left the juice on my zdp189 endura for about 4 hrs. no rust. i think i've put oil on that endura once in the last 4 months & used it to scrape glue & gum off of carpet sprayed with powerful cleaning agents .after which i wiped blade on pants , still no rust. we really do'nt accomplish much shouting at each other but some members are damned abrasive.[me to if leaned on]
 
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You say that it corrodes easily and it sounds like it will rust in an eyeblink.
Blah, blah, blah. What difference would it make if it wasn't oiled, or was kept in its sheath, if it's so stain resistant? Do you even understand your own post?
Pay attention, OP.
You people can read what you want into it, and act like I insulted your mother or something if it makes you happy. I'm not going to waste time arguing with you, but the guy needs to know his knife will require some care if he gets a satin blade.
 
Blah, blah, blah.
the guy needs to know his knife will require some care if he gets a satin blade.
But you didn't say that.
You said: "3V corrodes pretty easily"

Huge difference.

Hey Spyderc0, I have three Ferman knives and have never had an issue with corrosion at all.
Don't listen to the parrots.
 
bearcut and Kyley are right. Kyley has well documented video evidence of 3V's corrosion resistance. I own 4 Fehrman blades and have 2 other blades in 3V and never had a rust issue. I left one covered in pig blood over night outside. I washed it off and not even a patina. I love 3V and it is very stain resistant.
 
Blah, blah, blah. What difference would it make if it wasn't oiled, or was kept in its sheath, if it's so stain resistant? Do you even understand your own post?
Pay attention, OP.
You people can read what you want into it, and act like I insulted your mother or something if it makes you happy. I'm not going to waste time arguing with you, but the guy needs to know his knife will require some care if he gets a satin blade.

Owen.. your responses are nothing short of Trollish. you are wrong. you have no evidence. and instead of talking like an adult you are appearing to me like a raving 12 year old suffering adolescence issues.

I'll answer for others to edify people smarter than you.

What difference does it make if it wasnt oiled? its carbon steel? All things with iron in them will rust eventually.. the difference is only time.. Oil prevents oxygen hitting the steel and causing the oxidation. A blade with a smear of oil on it may not oxidize for years.. without it it may oxidize in minutes.

What if its kept in its sheath? Again.. lets edify you so you stop speaking blah blah to poor people who might think you know something.
A sheath, typically leather has a tendency to absorb moisture for the ambient atmosphere similar to a dehumidifier. It wicks this moisture inside to hit the blade. the water then gets through the oil and creates a perfect atmosphere for the oxygen and water to start corroding the steel inside the sheath. Because you are not a knife user and leave it there for untold time in the sheath you dont notice all the rust eating away.. probably a bit like the fungus between your toes.

I understand my post very well.. the issue here Owen.. is that you have 4000 posts with Much todo about nothing.

I dont need to continue this. I think the OP is quite clear on putting an ignore on your feedback.

go blah blah somewhere else.
 
Fehrman blades are top notch, have used them since, well since they first came out lol..I have a old FJ that is just a kick ass blade, I have beaten this blade and it comes back for more. After every hard use I do a quick strop of the blade (have yet to take a stone to it) and it remains hair popping sharp. I have never had any issue with rust or corrosion, even after leaving it with tree sap and wet in its sheath over night.

Get a Fehrman, you wont regret it..
 
Ive been taking a look at the Fehrman Last Chance fixed blade knife, and was wanting to get some word on how well made they are, and if the materials used are any good, and how good they are. I am thinking of getting one pretty soon, so i just want to see what everyone thinks.

http://store.fehrmanknives.com/lastchance.aspx

The last chance is a great knife, and I highly recommend it. :thumbup: The shadow scout is thinner, and lighter with fantastic ergo's. I spent the weekend beating the hell out of it and there is no perceivable degradation in the edge. Pretty amazing, but 3v is tough stuff. :cool:

I did get some surface rust on the shadow scout by leaving it in the kydex sheath overnight with some water droplets on the blade. They wiped right off in the morning. No biggie. If I cared, I'd just take some flitz to it... but it doesn't bother me in the slightest. Fehrman's are meant to be used, and I don't want to be caught with a pretty knife and called a sissy. ;) :)

The stains on the blade in this pic are from sap in the mesquite wood I battoned. See the lil' roundish spot by the tip, that was surface rust that I wiped off onto my shirttail.
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I'll be posting a full review soon on the shadow scout and the First strike. I'd like to put them through a bit more abuse before posting the results.

I'm a fanboy of all knives that work great and exceed my expectation... regardless of brand. I just love tough knives. :thumbup: Is that so wrong... :confused:
 
kdstrick that's a real pic of a real knife used real hard,love it. noticed you did'nt have any blood on the handle.
 
Anybody out there has a pic of a Peacemaker and Shadow Scout side-by-side?

Thanks!

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kdstrick that's a real pic of a real knife used real hard,love it. noticed you did'nt have any blood on the handle.

Wait till you see my First Strike review... ;) Oh yeah, the micarta gets bloody once again...

I guess I'm a real glutton for punishment. :D

One of these days I'm gonna learn to wear gloves... or not.
 
I love this knife. I've used and abused it, and have only had to strop it to restore it to shaving sharp. I modified the handle a little bit to fit my hand better, but I have no complaints about this beast of a knife. If I had it to do over again, I would probably get the satin version, but the coated works well anyway.
 
I was going to get one until they boosted there prices. That knife was $250.00 not a long time ago...I don't what happened, there's probably a good reason.
 
Fehrman makes outstanding blades, I have 2 Peacemaker's. I also have others enroute First Strike, Extreme Judgment, and the Last Chance.

I hate to break it to blah blah but even stainless will rust, and the ever popular Infi.
 
i feel sorry for members that did'nt order ferhmans a month or two back. my final judgment sans sheath last feb. was 360$ now the some knife sans sheath is 450$. the knives are worth it but at these prices i feel bad that so many members will have to pass. i expected the increase but not by that much margin.
dennis
 
Patina is the first sign you get, before you ever get rusting of a damaging nature.

This is incorrect, it may just be a misunderstanding of the term patina, but a patina will protect a blade from rust, not accelerate it.
 
I just bought a last chance satin. It is freaking amazing knife. I actually bumped this up as my new "GOTO" fixed blade for camping. I am very excited.
 
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