Ferhman blade steel, better than Infi??

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jeepin

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I have been hearing from some people, have ferhman knives, say there steel holds a better edge than infi, I cant think off hand what kind of steel that is, but does any one here own any ferhman knives, and can give there opinions. I dont know much about ferhman knives though, except that the guy used to work for Busse knives..
 
I figured I would, I would also like to know why ferhman copies jerry's knives?
 
My $.02...

While I haven't used any CPM-3V, I have used a lot of other steels and having used plenty of INFI as well, I doubt that any other tool steel holds an edge like INFI assuming the grinds are similar. But... let's say for a moment that it does. Edge holding is not the only criteria that I feel should be used to guage one steel being superior to another and I'm positive that CPM-3V cannot compete on all levels with INFI.

As to the copying... why does anyone copy anything? Two reasons. 1)A lack of creativity and original ideas 2) And in the arena of knives... because someone feels that Busse's designs are superior to their own.
 
thank you for your 2 cents spear head, I appreciate it, and anyway, I would never buy a fehrman ever, I will always stick with busse!, I cant wait for the fusion battle mistress..:cool: :cool:
 
3V with a decent HT will give good, even great performance. I can't garauntee how it will compare to INFI on abrasive cutting and general edge-holding; it should be fairly close. However, INFI will be much more corrosion-resistant and much easier to sharpen.
 
As far as how CPM-3V compares to INFI, I say we wait for the results of Jerry's tests. You have to remember it isn't just the steel, it is the heat treating that truly makes INFI a top notch performer.
 
This was talked about some months ago. Just do a search for "Ferhman" and you will find a lot on the subject.

I just want to know two things: When will the new SJ be out and when we will be seeing the new D2 Rats?:D
 
Originally posted by jeepin
I dont know much about ferhman knives though, except that the guy used to work for Busse knives..
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A few things:

1.) NOBODY from Fehrman has ever worked for Busse.

2.) There are plenty of good steels being used today. Several of which can fare better than INFI in different, specific areas. For example, there are several steels that can maintain an edge better than INFI in tests where slicing into a hard substrate such as rock, steel, etc… is the criteria. However, the difference in performance is minimal and these same steels perform miserably and suffer catastrophic failure in high impact tests and tests of lateral strength whereas INFI rules the roost, so to speak. The same can be said for stain resistance.

3.) 3V is a good steel, but it does NOT come close to standing up to INFI. If it did, we would be using it as it is much easier to obtain and is much cheaper than INFI. I can assure you that the day another manufacturer begins using a steel that can either match or surpass INFI's performance across the board, you will see a "live" demo at a show that proves it. Many makers have been using 3V for a number of years and NONE have ever publicly attempted to reproduce the series of tests that Busse Combat has performed “live” at so many shows.

4.) What does a manufacturer say about the performance of their knives and what do they do to demonstrate their claims? That’s the real question. Words are cheap. “Live” demonstrations by a maker or manufacturer forces them to put their money where their mouth is. I am not aware of any manufacturers, other than Busse and Swamp Rat, who have stepped up to the plate and performed “live” tests that are repeatable and measurable.

On a final note, let me clearly state that there are plenty of great knives on the market and a number of great steels being used today. The consumer needs to decide what his/her particular usage requirement is going to be and then decide which steel and design is most suited for that particular application. For “over the top” toughness and edge holding, and for applications of extreme performance where a knife may be called upon to perform emergency non-knife-like functions, INFI has been proven to stand alone.

Jerry Busse
 
Oh Lord, it's fun to watch someone who is a master of what they do

KX
 
Here's a simple test. Do a search on the Knives wanted to buy forum for Fehrman and then do one for Busse. :D

Nick
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Originally posted by Jerry Busse
... For “over the top” toughness and edge holding, and for applications of extreme performance where a knife may be called upon to perform emergency non-knife-like functions, INFI has been proven to stand alone....
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I think that about sums it up perfectly. :)
 
Thank you Jerry, I appreciate it, well about Fehrman working for busse knives, I had read about it on the forums, I cant remember if it was bladeforums, or another one, but they said that he had decided to go out on his own, and make his own knives, so I guess someone did not know what they were talking about, thank you again Jerry, you are awesome.:)
 
Ill throw my two cents in here:D
I own blades from both Fehrman and Busse,Ive owned Busse knives for more then 7 years and I think they are great knives.
When I bought my Fehrman,I was amazed at the quality of this blade,There is NO semi custom company or whatever you want to call them that I have seen that compares to the attention to detail like the Fehrman blades.

I have used both blades in chopping and cutting,My Fehrman did both better,It came with a sharper edge and cleaned game very easy,it also chopped bone from coyote legs and deer leg,When I chopped through deer leg bone I had a couple of small chips in the edge of my Battle Mistress which sharpend out rather easily.I have never pried myself out of a down aircraft(thank god) so all I know is how these blades would pry in the woods,you will never know the difference.I in NO WAY can break a blade that is 1/4 thick by wedgeing it in a log and taking my 185 frame and trying to snap it,both blades will laugh there ass off at me.The Fehrman had a thicker handle which was better for me as my Battle Mistress handles were a little thin and would shift in my hand.

As for edge holding,I dont think anyone would be able to tell the difference,as for the comment on copying Busse,Trust me when I say they are to different beasts,and if thats the case then what about all of those who has coppied Bob Loveless,There is only so much one person can do to change a desighn.I feel that Fehrman knives has looked at what works from all different companies and makers like Busse, Tops, Rinaldi, Simonich.

When Fehrman said that Tracie Rinaldi was a big influence,Tracie didnt talk crap he looked at it as a compliment,If Jerry see's a influence which im pretty sure there is he also should look at it as a compliment and im pretty sure he does,I know I would.I bet the farm that if you used a Fehrman blade you would be impressed,and even more so if you gave Eric Fehrman a call and talk blades,he is a super guy and over this past year I can call him a friend.

If you buy a Busse your in good hands,the same thing goes for Fehrman,I still own Busse knives and think they are great and hope the new line does well as im sure it will,My 2 Battle Mistress gets beat on a couple of times a month,I dont collect them they all get treated like a 10 dollar whore and they scream for more:eek:

Alright now that I have come to the House of Busse,Please wait so I can put on my face shield before you throw any rocks:p

Nic your laggin buddy:D
 
Featherstone,

Thanks for stopping in and posting your thoughts. But come on man! You know we don't throw rocks over here. . . . We throw empty beer bottles! LOL ;)

I'm glad to hear that you still give your Busse blades the necessary abuse that lets them know that they're still loved.

Nuke On!

Jerry
 
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