Ferric Chloride weirdness

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Sooooooo...

I dipped a 1095 blade in the ferric solution I had made up earlier this week and got a very quick, uniform dark grey etch with no issues (60 second etch). Come tonight, I dipped my 1075 blade (degreased x2 and acetone wiped x2) in the same solution and only got a weak grey etch with patches of mottled black in a few places (90 second etch). The blade had been sanded to 2000 grit prior to etching. Longer etches (up to 10 minutes) just yielded micro pitting with no significant color change. I tested a piece of un-heattreated 1075 from the same bar and it turned jet black. I completely re-sanded the blade to 320, thinking I had over sanded and the same result occurred. Grey color, no hamon. Blade was clayed along the spine and heat treated @ 1480F with 10 minute soak and Parks 50 quench, followed by 375 F temper x2.

Ferric solution is 1:1 FeCl3 to vinegar with 50% dilution with RODI water in a silicone sealed PVC container. The solution was untouched from the previous etch to the current.

Thoughts?

Post heat treat (clay lines visible):
https://photos.app.goo.gl/BAFxcnS1RpRT4XHC2

Post etch:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7WvQ1GzvHcwGy7ug1
 
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1st, I believe your clay popped off in the quench and you will have no hamon. 2nd, you have not sanded down to clean metal and are trying to etch scale and decarb.
 
1st, I believe your clay popped off in the quench and you will have no hamon. 2nd, you have not sanded down to clean metal and are trying to etch scale and decarb.

This exactly.
 
Thanks! I will try sanding down further to see if I get different results.

The clay did pop off during quench. I used sour cream thickness satanite, which is what I had seen recommended. Any thoughts as to why this occurred?
 
The clay may not have been fully dry. I have rushed it a few times and if it's not fully dry, the moisture turns to steam and puffs it up creating voids. As soon as I went into the quench on those knives the clay pretty much just popped off. Have not had the same issues when the clay is fully cured
 
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