Fiddleback Forge's Mid-Tech Line

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Fiddleback Forge has recently added a new dimension to their offerings by launching a line of mid-tech knives. The first three models in this new line are, from top to bottom, the: Bushfinger, Hiking Buddy, and Runt. These three are all made of tumbl-finished CPM S35VN stainless steel, and they come with the option of natural or black micarta handle scales.

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These also come wrapped in brown paper, but a little differently than the hand made knives. These come wrapped in paper and sealed in plastic, inside a box along with a certificate of authenticity.

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The Bushfinger comes with a nice Bushcrafter style leather belt sheath with a ferro rod loop. The sheaths are made by JRE.

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The micarta handle scales three dimensionally contoured, and being machined they also have a crenelated surface for enhanced grip. Each is hand assembled at Fiddleback Forge, so they get some of the same fine tuning as the hand made handles. It makes for a good looking and good feeling handle, and the fit and finish is what I would expect from Fiddleback Forge.

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It came with a nice edge that would easily make nice curls in seasoned hardwood. The first hike out with it, I used the Bushfinger to make a cooking fire. I started by sectioning some maple branches for fuel using a method I call ring and break. It's good technique for doing bigger work with a smaller knife, or when you want to make less noise than chopping, so you don't scare off every animal in a five mile radius. Then using one section for a baton I reduced it to smaller pieces, and whittled some of it into feather sticks for tinder. The knife is quite comfortable in my hand, handles well, and offers really nice control in finer work. The crenelations do offer a secure purchase, but aren't so aggressive they cause hot spots in the chores I have done. Checking the knife afterward, it had suffered no ill effects from the cutting and batonning, and the edge was still quite sharp.

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It sliced through the roast lamb like it wasn't even there.

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Another method for using a small-ish knife to do larger task if you don't have an axe, is truncating. This is also a better method of testing edge toughness than batonning. With batonning, once the initial split is done, the edge is no longer in contact with the wood. This is not the case with truncating. With this technique the edge is repeatedly impacting against the seasoned wood. I think they did a great job with the heat treat on these, even after truncating through hard seasoned maple, there was no visible signs of damage to the edge, nor to the knife as a whole. The only noticeable difference was some slight loss of keenness to the edge in the area most used during truncating.

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The edge was holding up so well I grew impatient to see how easily it could be sharpened or repaired in the field. I'm not one for doing destructive type tests, I prefer to keep them within the realm of reasonable expectations of a design. It was the fire steel on the sheath that became my inspiration for degrading the edge more quickly through actual use of the knife as a tool. The edges of the spines are broken to reduce stress risers and enhance toughness on all of the Fiddleback models, so striking a fire steel would mean having another stiker or using the edge. Making a fire with a ferro rod under wet or damp conditions in this manner will definitely degrade a knife's edge some. I also know this is beyond the scope of reasonable expectation for some, but in a pinch in the bitter cold, you do what you have to do to get warm. In this instance it just gave me the chance to see how easy the knife is to maintain in the field.

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A little work with some sand paper removed the worst of the damage pretty quickly. I think the reduction of Vanadium and added Niobium versus S30V is a good combination for a working knife.

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The second model in the mid-tech line is the Hiking Buddy. This is one of my favorites of the Fiddleback line. I have bought a half dozen or so, gifting some, and looking for the perfect configuration with others. I have been wanting one in CPM S35VN for years, but Fiddleback Forge doesn't use a lot of this steel in the hand made knives. So I was really happy to see it come about in the mid-tech line. The Hiking Buddy is just an excellent size for edc, or for day hiking. Plenty to work with, but not a lot of added weight on a belt.

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As before the handle is three-dimensionally contoured. An ergonomic aspect often over looked with production knives in my experiences. The hand tuning really makes for a nice touch on these knives.

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It came sporting a very nice edge that would just wipe hair off my arm. Making feather sticks was no challenge at all.

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I live and work in the southern end of the East Appalachian Temperate Rain Forest. It gets very hot and humid here in the warm months, so I really like the corrosion resistance of the S35VN.

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One of the projects I have been working on recently is a powerpoint presentation on useful wild plants to augment some classes I am doing later this summer. The Hiking Buddy has been a great companion on these outings. It gives me enough knife to work with, but while carrying a pack full of camera equipment and a half gallon of water, it is easy to almost forget I have the knife with me. The knife has performed very well in the field, from cutting rope and cordage, to whittling digging sticks to dig up the roots I have been looking for, and meal prep at the end of the day.

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The crenelated handles really are nice, and help secure the purchase, even when working with greasy hands.

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The Runt is the smallest of the mid-tech line. It is more designed to be a pocket knife that doesn't fold, and comes with a pocket sheath rather than a belt sheath.

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Personally I prefer small fixed blades to folders for most uses. They don't suffer near as much damage over years of rough use.

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Also when it comes to food prep or food consumption, fixed blades are more hygienic and easier to clean than a folding knife. This is also an area where the corrosion resistance of the S35VN is nice.

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So yes, I am really happy to see these knives come about. Some of my favorite knife models, in one of my favorite knife steels, and produced in a more affordable mid-tech package, with sheath included. Plus at the same time, the benefit of hand tuning by craftsmen known for their fit and finish, and excellent ergonimcs. To me there is just nothing there to not like.

Another benefit of the mid-tech line is the fairly consistent handle sizes, even though hand-tuned. This makes it easier for someone to make kidyx sheaths for the knives. Currently Rick Lowe, another one of our craftsman members here on the forum, is making a line of aftermarket hybrid leather/kydex sheaths for the midtech line. I have been checking those out lately as well. I like the styling, the retention, and the higher ride on the models I have. Rick is a talented sheath maker who does some really nice work

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Wow, those look amazing. I'm hoping to possibly grab a Fiddleback Forge knife next month at Blade. Your pictures always make them seem flawless.
 
Wow, those look amazing. I'm hoping to possibly grab a Fiddleback Forge knife next month at Blade. Your pictures always make them seem flawless.

Thanks, but they are not quite flawless...or I wouldn't like them as much. They typically have some very subtle flaws here or there that are just enough to let one know they are made by man rather than by machine. The hand touches are something I also really like about the mid-tech line.
 
Great review and write-up! I have a Bushfinger in black micarta and WOW, it gets sharper than any knife I have owned to this point! And... it holds the edge amazingly well! I convexed my edge, then stropped.... bam.... dangerous sharp edge! I LOVE this knife! I am so into custom Fiddlebacks, I didn't want to like it, but..... you can't help it! It's just GREAT! Now, let's talk about the leather/kydex sheath... Rick Lowe out did himself! He is a true master of his craft. What a bargain!!! This think works and looks amazing! I normally don't use bushcraft knives in the kitchen (I cook professionally), but I ordered a 2nd Bushfinger to keep in my kit! The edge feels much thinner than it is. It cuts like a thinner knife, with the strength we all know it has. Amazing! This knife is a true work of art. It is the best bang for the buck I have EVER received in the knife world! Thank you Andy Roy! Now I want a Bear Paw Bushcrafter in the same steel/grind/heat treat!
 
Awesome review! I'm pretty sure that I will be getting a pair of the HB for my boys' first users.
 
Thanks for putting in the time to share with us. It's also nice to see the review done with all three models, particularly so as info on the mid-tech runt has been scarce. I just can't get over the value these represent, especially when you consider they come with an HJE sheath to make them user-ready. I'm thinking one of these hiking buddies would live a nice life in my car, ready anytime I take an impromptu trip to the woods, or farm. It's such a handy size.

These are fantastic reviews and detailed pictures, as always.
 
Great pictures as always!

Thank you!


Fantastic review as always, my friend!

Thanks Dave, glad you enjoyed it!


Great review and write-up! I have a Bushfinger in black micarta and WOW, it gets sharper than any knife I have owned to this point! And... it holds the edge amazingly well! I convexed my edge, then stropped.... bam.... dangerous sharp edge! I LOVE this knife! I am so into custom Fiddlebacks, I didn't want to like it, but..... you can't help it! It's just GREAT! Now, let's talk about the leather/kydex sheath... Rick Lowe out did himself! He is a true master of his craft. What a bargain!!! This think works and looks amazing! I normally don't use bushcraft knives in the kitchen (I cook professionally), but I ordered a 2nd Bushfinger to keep in my kit! The edge feels much thinner than it is. It cuts like a thinner knife, with the strength we all know it has. Amazing! This knife is a true work of art. It is the best bang for the buck I have EVER received in the knife world! Thank you Andy Roy! Now I want a Bear Paw Bushcrafter in the same steel/grind/heat treat!


Thanks Will! The ones I tested came nice and sharp, and liked the ease of bringing the degraded edge back on the Bushfinger. I have only cut organic material with the black handled Hiking Buddy and it is holding its edge quite well. I had the opposite feeling for these. I had been bugging Andy about a couple of knives made in CPM S35VN for a while to no avail, so when I heard these would be in that steel I was really excited. With the Bushfinger model, I really like that it is "guardless", and that you can get the entire edge to contact a cutting board, I like to cook too! But for me the Hiking Buddy is the one I was really drawn too. It's perfect for my uses in hikes and in classes, so I am really glad to see it. I hadn't been able to find anything comparable in shape, size, or price in that steel in the production market. I am sort of hoping to see a KEB come out in that steel, because it is much like a larger Hiking Buddy.

Rick does very nice work, but I agree, he has outdone himself with these sheaths. They are very nicely executed. I really like the high ride for in and out of the truck.


Awesome review! I'm pretty sure that I will be getting a pair of the HB for my boys' first users.

Thank you. I know what you mean. I bought my daughter a hand made Hiking Buddy once I finally found a synthetic handle with a pink-ish / purple-ish color to it. But had I known these were coming I would have waited. It's not her first knife though so it'll be alright. I do like having these as users in the field, and in class settings. I think they should do well as first good quality users.


Another fantastic review. Love the look of their mid tech line. Hope own some one day.

Thank you. With them being produced in quantity, and at a lower price, that should be easier to do than with the hand made ones. I know a few of our members here on the forum are carrying them on their sites.


Thanks for putting in the time to share with us. It's also nice to see the review done with all three models, particularly so as info on the mid-tech runt has been scarce. I just can't get over the value these represent, especially when you consider they come with an HJE sheath to make them user-ready. I'm thinking one of these hiking buddies would live a nice life in my car, ready anytime I take an impromptu trip to the woods, or farm. It's such a handy size.

These are fantastic reviews and detailed pictures, as always.

Glad you liked the post. Yes, the Runt is the latest to come out, so not a lot on it yet. I think it is a great value too, and have similar thoughts. I will be getting a straight up kydex sheath from Rick for one of the Hiking Buddies I plan to leave in one of my field kits in the truck. I love the lowered need for maintenance with the CPM S35VN when it comes to just storing a knife in my vehicles here. With it being a temperate rain forest, it gets hot and muggy with a lot of humidity here. Carbon steel knives stored long term in vehicles here tend to rust unless coated in oil.
 
There will be a separate review of this one of course, but I just got the mid-tech Camp Knife in. With an overall of 12-inches, 6.5 inches of sharpened CPM 3V awesomeness with a 5.5-inch multi-position handle that has very sweet contours and sublime ergonomics...I am very much looking forward to getting acquainted with it :)

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Beautiful pics and review. I have one of Andy's first Runts. I bought it used and have carried it often. Great little knife. I like the looks of these---where are you getting them and the Lowe sheaths? Shoot me a PM.
 
Beautiful pics and review. I have one of Andy's first Runts. I bought it used and have carried it often. Great little knife. I like the looks of these---where are you getting them and the Lowe sheaths? Shoot me a PM.

Hi Steve, I sent you a PM. But your question reminds me of something. I have been testing these models for a while and talked about them so much in another area I forget I am in a different area of the forum.

I volunteered to test these when they came out for a few different reasons. One is that Andy and I have developed more than just a business relationship and have become friends over the years. I volunteered to test what he was making a rather large investment in. Another was that I have been bugging Andy about making some knives for me in CPM S35VN because I missed out on the short run of knives he made in that steel. He usually responds to those requests with a laugh because he isn't very fond of working with that steel. I like S35VN for my humid environment and when I am working in coastal environments. After weeks of tests, I liked what I was seeing and decided to post the review of it. I am a huge fan of the Hiking Buddy model. I have bought a few of the hand made ones for myself over the years looking for the right one, and I recently bought one for my daughter. It is a great little knife. I love the midtech version and will be buying a few of them for use in my classes. I also like the Bushfinger. It is one of the few knives that offer me the pointiness I require in my field knives yet still has some belly to it, and makes a great all-arounder. So far I have been really pleased with everything I have seen in these knives: The form, the fit and finish (I love the hand tuning) the steel, and the heat treat of it. It has nice edge retention without being a pain in the neck to maintain or fix in the field. Also it isn't so hard that it chips out or breaks in rough use applications. In the hand made knives, everything is changeable and adjustable...steel thickness, grind height, handle thickness, etc. But with the mid tech he had to aim for a middle ground that would: look good, feel good, perform well, and be durable because it is on the open market. These mid-techs differ in some ways from the hand made ones I have because the process is different, but in putting them all through tests that to me include going beyond reasonable expectations at times, I think Andy has nailed where these models need to be to meet all of the above criteria. I think they are great. I like what it brings to the open market in user knives, and I am glad to see them there. Now if I need one for my classes or for a gift or for a friend I have suggested a specific model to, I don't have to look through the Friday posts hoping to find what I want, I just go on line and order them. That to me is awesome.
 
Man I really dig those.

Can you talk a little bit about where to get them, and what they cost? Also, does Andy have plans to make more models in the mid-tech configuration? Lastly, is there any chance that Andy is considering any other steel types?

As you already know, I'm a huge fan of the Kephart. A mid-tech in cpm m4 would be like a dream come true. That way I could use it hard and keep the handmade knives in a little better condition.

Finally, Rick Lowe's work is fabulous. Just a great craftsman and a gentleman as well. Way to go Rick!
 
i love all thoses

They are very nicely done, and spot on with the profile of their hand-made counterparts


Man I really dig those.

Can you talk a little bit about where to get them, and what they cost? Also, does Andy have plans to make more models in the mid-tech configuration? Lastly, is there any chance that Andy is considering any other steel types?

As you already know, I'm a huge fan of the Kephart. A mid-tech in cpm m4 would be like a dream come true. That way I could use it hard and keep the handmade knives in a little better condition.

Finally, Rick Lowe's work is fabulous. Just a great craftsman and a gentleman as well. Way to go Rick!

I am thinking all three of the sites that are selling them are also members here...but I haven't seen Dale or Derrick post in a while so I am hesitant there. I know Whitty at USA Made Blade is currently a member, and they are carrying the midtech line.

The mid-tech camp is done in CPM 3V so yes other steels are being considered.

Rick is a great guy, and a talented craftsman.
 
Andy is doing an amazing job with the mid-tech production line. So far it seems to me he has gotten everything right.

Can't wait for your review of the Camp Knife!

Eric
 
Andy is doing an amazing job with the mid-tech production line. So far it seems to me he has gotten everything right.

Can't wait for your review of the Camp Knife!

Eric

Thanks Eric, those are my thoughts too, and I can't either! The testing was to start yesterday...but then my partner decided we were going to do a field first aid and evac exercise when he had an accident that produce arterial flow... I'll start on it this week.

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They all look great, excellent review there sir ! That small one looks like a real handy rascal to have around too.

Myself I would prefer they had a lanyard hole, surprised that the larger ones didn't come with one.

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edited to add, I see they do have lanyard holes on some of their models, and they sure do have a lot of models ! :)
 
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