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Fiddleback sneak peak. Good idea or not so good.
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J.R.
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I was opposed to last weeks changes. It will never be fair for everyone. Its just more work, more complaints and more blame laden refereeing that we have to do in the thread.
As to sneak peeks, folks this is how I built my business. Its how I created the demand. Its not about fair, its about marketing.
We will not be requiring a full description of any knife in a Fiddleback Friday anymore. Our less than savvy computer people are ruled out by this rule. Its a long shot for them anyway, but this turns them away. We can't rule out the slowest. I refuse.
As to sneak peeks, folks this is how I built my business. Its how I created the demand. Its not about fair, its about marketing.
We will not be requiring a full description of any knife in a Fiddleback Friday anymore. Our less than savvy computer people are ruled out by this rule. Its a long shot for them anyway, but this turns them away. We can't rule out the slowest. I refuse.
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Josiah, you never fail to impress me with your character my man.
Another point for going gold, the administrative tools in your threads. Once the thread has served it's purpose, you can lock it and let it sink.
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All guests here please proceed to Fiddleback on tap, our own beer of the month thread!
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1110511-Fiddleback-on-Tap-Saturdays
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1110511-Fiddleback-on-Tap-Saturdays
that "other" negative post in the flea market made me think about bumping this thread, since some of that posts sentiment might be coming from the inequity in how the friday threads work, specifically with respect to the fotki site.
just to ask, but has it ever been considered to add the knife description to the fotki pictures?
This could go a long way to leveling the playing field for those newer folks. In essence this would change nothing for FF other than having the knife descriptions available ~1 hour earlier. This would provide a nice "preview" before the chaos commences, much like some other knife makers do on other message boards that post up all the knives\descriptions, but keep the thread locked until a certain time. (imo that works much better)
secondarily, rather than make someone post the entire description (discrimination against "less computer savvy" as noted) or encourage speed posting based on model name/features (discrimination against those who dont know about fotki or are less familiar with all of the FF models or potentially color blind), you could just require posting the unique number you already assign to each knife.
For example, to shark the following;
2015 0123 01 Runt w/ green Curly Ash over black w/ white pinstripes, SFT Tang, convex on 1/8 spalted A2 steel - $250
Saying I'll take "01" would be required rather than "i'll take the green runt".
having said all that, I have been able to shark one knife on Friday, but mostly because I think it's a less popular model that always seems to last longer. The other knives that have caught my eye I'd have stood no chance even knowing about Fotki and being available to hit F5 a whole bunch. I still sometimes have trouble ID'ing knife models so i need to see the pictures and descriptions sometimes to know what they are. I'm also partially color blind so that doesnt help either.
food for thought or just feel free to ignore
just to ask, but has it ever been considered to add the knife description to the fotki pictures?
This could go a long way to leveling the playing field for those newer folks. In essence this would change nothing for FF other than having the knife descriptions available ~1 hour earlier. This would provide a nice "preview" before the chaos commences, much like some other knife makers do on other message boards that post up all the knives\descriptions, but keep the thread locked until a certain time. (imo that works much better)
secondarily, rather than make someone post the entire description (discrimination against "less computer savvy" as noted) or encourage speed posting based on model name/features (discrimination against those who dont know about fotki or are less familiar with all of the FF models or potentially color blind), you could just require posting the unique number you already assign to each knife.
For example, to shark the following;
2015 0123 01 Runt w/ green Curly Ash over black w/ white pinstripes, SFT Tang, convex on 1/8 spalted A2 steel - $250
Saying I'll take "01" would be required rather than "i'll take the green runt".
having said all that, I have been able to shark one knife on Friday, but mostly because I think it's a less popular model that always seems to last longer. The other knives that have caught my eye I'd have stood no chance even knowing about Fotki and being available to hit F5 a whole bunch. I still sometimes have trouble ID'ing knife models so i need to see the pictures and descriptions sometimes to know what they are. I'm also partially color blind so that doesnt help either.
food for thought or just feel free to ignore
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The coolest thing about the sneak peeks is getting pics of your blades throughout their creation. Sort of like seeing your car being built. It's super cool. Hoping Bonafide starts it up again when he returns.
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Hi Pechelman,
Nice input. Though unless there is a decision made to require full cut and pasting of the knife description per the recommended suggestion by the FB crew each Friday, it will not matter all that much outside of knowing the full knife specs before the sales thread. This may help some who are looking for a specific blade thickness or tang type and cannot determine those from the photos, but regardless the popular knives will still go to those with the faster connections and quick pasting skills.
The recent addition of a 3 knife limit per post was a nice step IMO. I personally would be for a lower limit/post. I don't think going lower would have any affect on clearing weekly inventory the way things have been popping around here.
To get around the "not knowing" and posting generic I'll take it descriptions, just simply ask on the forums when the photos go up and you might get some clearer answers not easily found just looking at the photos.
I'm having Sneak Peak withdrawal. Andy/Allen/Vance's instagram helps a little but I sure have missed Bud's weekly shop visits.
Nice input. Though unless there is a decision made to require full cut and pasting of the knife description per the recommended suggestion by the FB crew each Friday, it will not matter all that much outside of knowing the full knife specs before the sales thread. This may help some who are looking for a specific blade thickness or tang type and cannot determine those from the photos, but regardless the popular knives will still go to those with the faster connections and quick pasting skills.
The recent addition of a 3 knife limit per post was a nice step IMO. I personally would be for a lower limit/post. I don't think going lower would have any affect on clearing weekly inventory the way things have been popping around here.
To get around the "not knowing" and posting generic I'll take it descriptions, just simply ask on the forums when the photos go up and you might get some clearer answers not easily found just looking at the photos.
I'm having Sneak Peak withdrawal. Andy/Allen/Vance's instagram helps a little but I sure have missed Bud's weekly shop visits.
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Not suggesting full cut and paste posting at all.
How would one know the semi-arbitrary number assigned prior to posting the Friday thread?? I know knives are listed in increasing size, so there would be some guessing, but prob not worth the risk as the group shot vs individual shots arent always in order.
This would level the playing field a good bit as all people attempting to shark would have to READ the descriptions, take note of the assigned sequential number in the description, and then post the number instead of descriptors. You'll still know what knife is coming up on Friday, but to shark it you can no longer speed post. (unless you guess lucky on the number)
as far as sneak peaks
I like those too and wasnt intending my post to be a comment on that (despite the OP's topic) but this seemed as good of a discussion as any to bring this up.
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I should be back next week to my regular routine. I miss it as much as anyone.
Many will be happy to hear that bud!!!!
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This thread, some recent comments in the flea market, and my own difficulty scoring a knife on Fridays got me thinking...
The sneak peaks are cool. Like Andy said, they create demand and market his knives. They hype up the Friday event. It's all good on those fronts. But the sharks and Fiddleback aficionados do sort of get a leg up when it comes to claiming these knives in as much as, after viewing the sneak peaks, they don't even need to browse the knife descriptions posted in the Fiddleback Friday thread in order to claim the knives once they're posted for sale.
If you want to level the playing field a little I have an idea that might work: Post the Fiddleback Friday thread like usual, but keep the the thread locked for, say, an hour or two so that potential buyers can review the knife specs and consider what they'd like to buy. Post what time the thread will be unlocked in the thread itself and then, once it gets unlocked and "goes live", the sharking can commence, hopefully on a more even keel. You could even standardize it: post the preview and unlock the sales threads at the same times every Friday.
You could also consider placing a more stringent limit on the number of knives that a single buyer can claim - particularly, say, in the first day a sales thread goes up. Maybe even make successful buyers from the previous week wait until the second day a sales thread goes up before they can claim another knife.
Anyway...just food for thought. I'm new and not super active here so take it for what it's worth.
I dig the knives. Just find buying them to be difficult.
The sneak peaks are cool. Like Andy said, they create demand and market his knives. They hype up the Friday event. It's all good on those fronts. But the sharks and Fiddleback aficionados do sort of get a leg up when it comes to claiming these knives in as much as, after viewing the sneak peaks, they don't even need to browse the knife descriptions posted in the Fiddleback Friday thread in order to claim the knives once they're posted for sale.
If you want to level the playing field a little I have an idea that might work: Post the Fiddleback Friday thread like usual, but keep the the thread locked for, say, an hour or two so that potential buyers can review the knife specs and consider what they'd like to buy. Post what time the thread will be unlocked in the thread itself and then, once it gets unlocked and "goes live", the sharking can commence, hopefully on a more even keel. You could even standardize it: post the preview and unlock the sales threads at the same times every Friday.
You could also consider placing a more stringent limit on the number of knives that a single buyer can claim - particularly, say, in the first day a sales thread goes up. Maybe even make successful buyers from the previous week wait until the second day a sales thread goes up before they can claim another knife.
Anyway...just food for thought. I'm new and not super active here so take it for what it's worth.
I dig the knives. Just find buying them to be difficult.
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I happened upon Fiddleback Forge after looking for a top end machete. I saw a photo of Andy's machete and knew that was exactly what I wanted. So I thought I'd go online and order one up and that's when I discovered how the whole system worked. At first I must admit I was a little turned off by the fact you could not just buy one. But I understand how this creates marketing value for Andy and demand. It's obvious some tech savvy guys have this down to a science. I mean literally you're talking about seconds between getting the knife you want or not. But I'm always up for a challenge and I will keep trying.
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From the "Well...It's Friday" thread:
Ask and you shall receive.
Those are just a couple recent examples. This forums is full of dozens of people who have done the research and would be glad to answer any questions. From pattern identification to handle materials to certain specs. To the extent Bud has multi-angle shots of certain knives in his Sneak Peek threads, one can also identify whether a particular knife is tapered vs SFT and make a pretty guess at steel thickness. Seriously, this forum is full of people sharing knowledge and information all the time. Ask away.
As for the suggestions, they're interesting. And entirely up to the Fiddleback crew.
Ask and you shall receive.
Those are just a couple recent examples. This forums is full of dozens of people who have done the research and would be glad to answer any questions. From pattern identification to handle materials to certain specs. To the extent Bud has multi-angle shots of certain knives in his Sneak Peek threads, one can also identify whether a particular knife is tapered vs SFT and make a pretty guess at steel thickness. Seriously, this forum is full of people sharing knowledge and information all the time. Ask away.
As for the suggestions, they're interesting. And entirely up to the Fiddleback crew.