fighting machetes

SurpriseGoat said:
My favorite machete style is barong. Used throughout histroy as both a tool and a weapon.
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So he wants to do a little machete fightin', is that so barong? :)
 
I think the last conflict I read about that involved machetes was the Belgian Congo, machetes seem a very poor choice for killing quickly with many repeated strikes to affect a kill.
 
In Ruanda the mob used machete's (Panga) as one of their primary weapons in the genocide of 1994. 800 000 dead.
 
Skimo said:
I think the last conflict I read about that involved machetes was the Belgian Congo, machetes seem a very poor choice for killing quickly with many repeated strikes to affect a kill.
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It all depends on the geometry of the blade and edge. Most machetes have thick, poorly sharpened edges for rough work...they can, however, be easily sharpened to a thin razor edge capable of causing gratuitously lethal wounds in a single strike.
 
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I always enjoy pushing limits of capability in my tools when testing to review (eg., chopping and throwing fighters etc.,)- however, knives/blades are VERY much purpose built tools - machetes are effectively when cared for and sharpened or dull similar to a cutlass- lots of cuts but CRAPPY stabbers-

Having been cut (20+staples) and or seen cuts (hundreds of staples) during just training...if someone wants to use a machete as a weapon, it will work, and work well
 
Yeah. Do a Google image search for "machete wound" or "machete attack" (I really don't recommend it) and you'll see some pretty stark examples of what one can do to flesh and bone.
 
painkilleraz said:
Lmao, not really :)
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Lmao actually yes really. ;) Just as a question, how much experience do you have with swords? Their dynamics and design characteristics are actually significantly different, despite machetes tracing their origins back to cutlasses.
 
FortyTwoBlades said:
Lmao actually yes really. ;) Just as a question, how much experience do you have with swords? Their dynamics and design characteristics are actually significantly different, despite machetes tracing their origins back to cutlasses.
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I practice escrima/kali -muy thai - juijitsu (over two decades now) and teach firearms (small arms etc.,)

So, swords, honestly not much- edged weapons...quite a bit. I understand for obvious reasons the mechanics vary, however the basics remain the same I would think.

Cause exsangunation as rapidly as possible which stops the threat. This is the goal of self defense in a deadly force situation, otherwise it is simply to stop an attacker, in which case the thought of getting slashed puts me on the quick retreat and I have been numerous times.

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painkilleraz said:
I practice escrima/kali -muy thai - juijitsu (over two decades now) and teach firearms (small arms etc.,)

So, swords, honestly not much- edged weapons...quite a bit. I understand for obvious reasons the mechanics vary, however the basics remain the same I would think.

Cause exsangunation as rapidly as possible which stops the threat. This is the goal of self defense in a deadly force situation, otherwise it is simply to stop an attacker, in which case the thought of getting slashed puts me on the quick retreat and I have been numerous times.

I love learning so, by all means, get in depth!
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The differences being that sabers in specific tend to have a significantly thicker spine for increased rigidity with strong distal taper and usually deep fullers, often a different curve shape to the point, and a full hilt. This combines to give a much lower point of balance (usually only a few inches in front of the guard) while giving the strength for true blade-on-blade defensive actions without the blade flopping over and yielding to the force involved.

Here's a beautiful example of advanced historical military saber form (Hutton). Many of these actions would not be feasible with a machete either due to balance (timing), lack of rigidity in the blade, improper tip shape, or lack of hand protection.

[video=youtube;DTqeuKW7tHY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTqeuKW7tHY[/video]
 
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