Filipino martial arts guys, I have a question

DannyinJapan said:
are there any taught in modern Filipino MA schools?
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There are a lot of things taught in "Modern" FMA systems that are not traditional per say. Just like most "Traditional" Japanese or Korean Karate systems, most FMA systems taught today are less than 100 yrs old, most much less. Hopologically, most south pacific island cutlures include such projectile weapons as spears, bows, crossbows, blowguns, throwing sticks and throwing rocks. As these cultures assimilated into modern society I'm sure that knife and spike throwing was used. Every kid with a knife will throw it at some point. Actually, most adults will too. I have had to tell my soldiers many times to quit throwing their bayonets and personal knives at stuff. So, If your question is did the Filipinos throw sharp stuff 300-800 yrs ago, maybe not, but did Filipinos adopt knife or someother type of projectile throwing from the spanish, Indonesians, Americans, or Japanese then the answer is probably yes.

Now to tie all this rambling verbage together, if Pananandata or Sayoc Kali, or another FMA system teaches throwing suriken type spikes or such, then yes, its being taught within the curriculum of a "modern" FMA system. If you are reviewing a book on a modern era FMA system that teaches projectile throwing I dont see why it would matter that historically the Filipinos did or did not do whats in the book.
 
The purpose of my little review is to look at a yet to be published book and make sure what is being presented as filipino throwing weapons are authentic Filipino weapons and methods and not copied from Japanese schools. Yes, what was done historically DOES matter if the book does not openly admit that the weapon or technique in question was borrowed from a Japanese school. It's just a matter of misrepresentation, which, academically, will ruin the whole book.
 
Well. if a Filipino stuck a throwing dart in your head using a technique he adapted from another martial art, would the result be less authentic?

I'm suprised you started this thread here and not on the FMA sub forum or on FMA Talk.com where there are more actual FMA players from the PI.
 
Colt6731 said:
Well. if a Filipino stuck a throwing dart in your head using a technique he adapted from another martial art, would the result be less authentic?
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Yes it would.
I don't care if people want to teach the use of weapons from other traditions. I have done it myself. The specific issue is teaching one thing and calling it another.
I really don't feel the need to join another forum, seeing as there seem to be so many FMA-knowledgable people here.
 
We at Sayoc Kali Philippines teach improvised weapons in our curriculum. One of which is locally called "Sputnik". It's similar to a slingshot, but instead of a Y, the handle is straight. The "arrows" we use are large nails with tassels at the end. The weapon is easily concealable.
 
SayocKaliPhilippines said:
We at Sayoc Kali Philippines teach improvised weapons in our curriculum. One of which is locally called "Sputnik". It's similar to a slingshot, but instead of a Y, the handle is straight. The "arrows" we use are large nails with tassels at the end. The weapon is easily concealable.
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Isn't Sputnik the name of a Russian Spaceshuttle?
 
captlid said:
Isn't Sputnik the name of a Russian Spaceshuttle?
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Yes. I believe it was coined with the russian shuttle in mind. The projectile of the weapon is a large nail, which was likened to the shuttle.

Don't really know who coined the term, but the term "Sputnik" used to refer to the Filipino weapon has become a common word here in the Philippines.

The weapon was heavily used in gangwars in the Philippines in the 60's.
 
Originally Posted by SayocKaliPhilippines
We at Sayoc Kali Philippines teach improvised weapons in our curriculum. One of which is locally called "Sputnik". It's similar to a slingshot, but instead of a Y, the handle is straight. The "arrows" we use are large nails with tassels at the end. The weapon is easily concealable.
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captlid said:
Isn't Sputnik the name of a Russian Spaceshuttle?
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This "sputnik" sounds similar to an atlatl.

(The original Sputnik was a small satellite launched by the Soviet Union, the first Earth orbiter, in fact.)
 
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