Finally a proper kiln!

Patrice Lemée

Patrice Lemée

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..or my baby's here! :D:thumbup: Does this finally makes me a knifemaker?:cool:

Evenheat 22.5" 220V! Yeah baby!!!!!:D

A couple of pics of it in it's proper place.

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And wait to look at this next pic if you've just finish eating. ;)






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Finally, here is the plug for the kiln and the one that I have going to the VFD that I will use. As you can see one of the prongs is not oriented the same. Does this mean something special or can I just go to the local Home Depot and find what I need to connect both? I have to make an extension anyway.

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Nice! You really should clean up the area though...

I'd say if you're marginal on being a REAL knifemaker. ;)

Maybe you need to do 5 or 6 more of those persian daggers first...:rolleyes:

I'd just twist the plugs to match.... Ahem, cough, cough.... Er, I mean I have no clue.
 
Finally, here is the plug for the kiln and the one that I have going to the VFD that I will use. As you can see one of the prongs is not oriented the same. Does this mean something special or can I just go to the local Home Depot and find what I need to connect both? I have to make an extension anyway.

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The plug on the left is a 20 amp plug and the one on the right is either a 15 or 30. Can't tell the configurations are the same and i can not zoom in to see the Nema number. Either way they are incompatable. Look on your name plate and see how many amps it pulls. Set up your plug to match. 15 amp would be Nema 6 15R, 20 amp would be Nema 6 20R, and the 30 would be Nema 6 30R. Look on the plug when you pick it up and it will show these numbers. And yes you should be able to pick them up at Home Depot or local electrical supply house. Good Luck!
 
The plug on the right is 6-15 and it is on a 15 amps breaker. On the kiln it says it draws 15 amps but the plug as you say is 6-20. Does it mean I need a bigger breaker? (I guess so) :(

Thanks for your help.

PS: Sorry I know the shop is a pigsty. Built a slower buffer yesterday and I did not have time to clean up. ;)
 
Patrice Lemée;9467814 said:
The plug on the right is 6-15 and it is on a 15 amps breaker. On the kiln it says it draws 15 amps but the plug as you say is 6-20. Does it mean I need a bigger breaker? (I guess so) :(

Thanks for your help.

PS: Sorry I know the shop is a pigsty. Built a slower buffer yesterday and I did not have time to clean up. ;)
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There is a chart of those plugs, lots of them
Locking chart and straight plug chart
http://www.hubbell-canada.com/wiring/bryant/pdf/b/b5.pdf
http://www.hubbell-canada.com/wiring/bryant/pdf/h/h3.pdf


The rule is 80% load of the circuit rating.
Just changing to a larger breaker and using the same wiring, risks fire.
20 amp breaker and ? gauge wire 12?
 
Thanks Cont. I'll surely get an electrician to change this to something that can handle the load. I don't want to take chances.
 
Indeed it was a lot of work. I had to call with my credit card number and all. ;)

Sorry, the VFD is for my grinders. I am just using the same circuit, the only 220 one I have in the garage.
 
NICE! Patrice, that is awesome. I'm extra envious right now. I see that you were so excited that you used the:cool:. Totally appropriate here. It's also great that you got one with some length, and 220V!

I am happy for you.

Upsizing a breaker is pretty easy to do- I'd already be on my way to the hardware store.

Dude, you are already a real knifemaker. Now you are a knifemaker with a new Evenheat. That's even better.
 
my grinder is on a 220v cloths dryer outlet and the kiln is in another room on a stove outlet. i never worry about drawing too many amps on those outlets (tho in the new shop i need to plan better abot my power options )

a kiln is a wonderful thing as it opens new and powerful HT options
 
Thanks guys.

Salem, I am envious of your shop space for one thing. Wanna trade? ;)

Rick, now you've done it. You know I will have to try cookies in there. ;) How long do think it will take at 2000F? :D
 
Salem is a good guy.....but upsizing a breaker is NOT a simple process.
If you just go buy a bigger breaker and snap it in ,you may well burn your house down.

The breaker installed is the one for the wiring gauge in your walls. If you just change the breaker, you still have the old wires. If you don't understand this fully do one of two things -
Call and electrician or put the fire department on speed dial.

For the same reason extension cords are a bad idea on high amperage 220V circuits. If you need a longer cord, make a new pigtail ( power cord) up for the oven and install the new plug on it. Use 10 gauge wire, make it only as long as necessary, and torque all screws down tight.

Final thoughts - The oven will get hot when firing. The metal shield you have around it will get hot,too. I would suggest you use insuboard or cement board as an enclosure
 
Now that is a kiln that's for sure!:thumbup:
+1 on the electrician, it may cost a little in the begining but its still cheaper than a fire!
 
Hi Patrice

ahah.. you will absolutely love that kiln.. they are very easy to use and they take all the misery out of trying to heat treat with gas forge..
-now you can hit all those steels that require a soak time and not worry a bit

when i think back.. it shoulda been one of my first purchases ... life would have been much simpler

good luck and enjoy

Greg
 
Patrice Lemée;9468697 said:
Rick, now you've done it. You know I will have to try cookies in there. ;) How long do think it will take at 2000F? :D
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Not sure... but you may need to soak for a several minutes to get the dough into full solution.... and make sure after the mix to normalize as soon as it comes out of the bowl or you may find the chocolate chips migrating to the boundries and creating cocoanite bands that will weaken the entire structure.

I also find that a little time in the freezer increases the hardness.

Good luck


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Stacy is right. I ran a completely new circuit in my shop. To avoid having to break into my walls, I checked into code with an electrician friend and ran the new wiring along the surface. My Kiln draws 11 amps. I have it on a double 20amp breaker with 12/3 wire (the yellow cable). I had intended on using the armoured cable, but it was overkill and very expensive for 30ft.
 
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Rick Marchand said:
Not sure... but you may need to soak for a several minutes to get the dough into full solution.... and make sure after the mix to normalize as soon as it comes out of the bowl or you may find the chocolate chips migrating to the boundries and creating cocoanite bands that will weaken the entire structure.

I also find that a little time in the freezer increases the hardness.
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Great advice, I'd like to add that EDGE packing is not a myth, the normalizing Rick's recommending should keep the chocolate spread evenly, and actually increase the original content along the edges....
 
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