Finally got burned

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ea42

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Well it finally happened. I won a 10 blade fightin' Rooster club knife last week. The guy charged $10 for shipping:eek: , so I figured at that price insurance was included. I know, I'm an idiot for not asking. Sure enough, an empty ENVELOPE arrived today minus the knife. What the hell?!? Who would put a knife like that in a lousy 6X10 padded envelope? And charge $10 for shipping? It probably cost him a buck if that! He didn't even tape the flap, and the shipping label was put on with scotch tape! According to him he's sold a hundred knives this way with no problem. I guess I'm the lucky winner.I'm definitely out the money since his reply was basically "Sorry, guess it was stolen, put a claim in at the post office". Damn I'm pissed, at this idiot and at myself for not taking precautions. I've had something like 150 great transactions and everyone packed and shipped with great care, but it only takes one greedy lazy dolt to ruin the whole experience. Just wanted warn everyone to insist on insurance when you go for a pricy knife, don't assume it will be included. If the seller is like this guy, all that extra money is doing is lining his friggin pockets.
Thanks for letting me vent.
Guess that's what I get for straying from the Schrades:grumpy:
Eric
 
He said to file a claim with the post office? Even with no insurance?

Regardless, submit an "item not received" claim with ebay. You didn't receive it. The seller has no evidence he sent you a knife, not just an empty envelope.
 
Carl64 said:
He said to file a claim with the post office? Even with no insurance?

I think that's just his lame excuse. I keep asking him what part of the $10 was actually used, but of course I get no reply to that. I will file the Ebay claim though, thanks for the suggestion.

Eric
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If you read Ebay policy, it says the seller is responsible to deliver said item to the buyer. Insurance protects the seller, not the buyer.
 
Was the item sent with delivery confirmation? If not, it is on the seller to prove you received it. If no delivery confirmation, then the onus is on seller. I'd file a claim. Not to hijack your thread, but be careful of this guy as well: rightclick06 Bid on a 123OT and paid for it yesterday with PayPal. Won a 106OT off of the guy tonight and now I see the guy is no longer a registered Ebay seller. I received a message from another Ebayer saying the guy has a history of building a good rep, then will sell a bunch of stuff he doesn't have, take people's money, then set up another account. Guess the guy went by some other name like woodtick101. ANyways, I filed a dispute for the money I sent him yesterday and then automatically elevated it to a claim so that PayPal would freeze the amount in his account, if it's still available, and then will try to figure it out. I swear, if I ever get my hands on some of these shysters.............:mad:
 
Yeah, it had delivery confirmation, which confirms that I got an $80 envelope. My guess is- well there are actually three- 1. either he didn't send it, which I don't really think happened 2. It's sitting in some thieving postal employee's pocket, and from there to a pawn shop, and 4. The sorting machinery tore the poorly taped flap open and the knife fell out somewhere en-route, and is now sitting in some postal employees pocket. My main gripe is just the haphazard way the knife was shipped. If he'd have done a simple thing like put some packing tape over the flap, this probably wouldn't have happened. He just doesn't care and freely admits it by his e-mails.

Eric
 
It was "servicefortwelve". The really depressing thing is that he got good feedback from the last pile of folks who bought knives from him. I wish I could have seen how they were packaged.
 
Won a 106OT off of the guy tonight and now I see the guy is no longer a registered Ebay seller.
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I was watching that one... But I saw your name, plus I'm on "knife restriction.*" Sorry that happened to you.

I've also been waiting over a week for an eBay item that hasn't arrived yet. Seller says he mailed it and can run tracking if it doesn't show up in the next couple of days. I generally get mail from anywhere in the country in 3-4 days...

-Bob

*Well sort of on knife restriction. I couldn't pass this up tonight for twenty-five bucks: Item
 
Follow through on it, Eric. Ebay makes it difficult and time consuming, but it's the only way to keep some semblance of responsibility on them. Sorry you had to go through it, and lose money!
 
I would follow through too. Yes they make it a pain in the ass but the seller did the wrong thing and hopefully you will get some satisfaction. I got taken for 150.00 bucks last year on a sale. The guy just took my money and never shipped the item. I got ebay involved and when it was over I ended up getting about half the money back. Guess its better than nothing.

Hey Bob nice catch. I saw that knife too but passed cuz I never figured it would go in 1 bid. :) :thumbup:
 
i am still waiting for a package!! we paid for it with paypal 2 wks ago. i am gonna file a complaint with ebay today. this guy split ebay too!!! 3 days after i apid he cancelled his account. so dont worry eric, u aint alone. i have tried to contact the seller twice, and neither time has he applied.

kris
 
....it must be full moon is it? Avoid Seller Silvertip like the plague.He's wracked up 12 negatives plus neutrals and Paypal always has to get involved and Ebay just let him list some more items. #120097448414. I bought scout knife 8 days ago with Buy It Now and paid. He has never acknowledged 12 emails,Paypal have confirmed he got the money and have now escalated the Paypal claim he doesnt respond to them either. He is not dead because hes still listing and buying. His blurb says "Satisfaction Guaranteed" yeah his satisfaction guaranteed.Ebay just said claim back on Paypal..couldnt care less.I am allowed to ring him from Australia to US they said and will give me his number..hell you guys dont even talk Australian how could I make myself understood.......... and who would want to talk to a moron like him anyway..Hoo Roo
 
eBay tip #1:
97.5% is not good. If a seller waits to get feedback before leaving it, that means any buyer leaving a negative will probably get one in return. So 2.5 out of 100 people were pissed enough to ruin their own reputation just for the sake of letting the rest of the world know the seller sucks. I would bet there are people in the 97.5% who got screwed but left positive feedback because the seller convinced them it was their own fault. I avoid anything under 99.5 unless it looks like a low-volume seller got screwed by one idiot.

My opinion on shipping:
IF the seller quotes the exact and actual shipping price, and specifies what carrier and add-on services (insurance, confirmation) will be used, they are just acting as a middleman and the buyer is choosing the service at their own risk.
In ANY other case, the seller is responsible for delivering the item, and proving it was delivered, and insuring it against THEIR failure to get it delivered. These cases include:
  • "Flat shipping fee of $10."
  • "Free shipping!"
  • "Seller reserves the right to select their preferred shipping service."
  • "Shipping to ZIP code _____: $7.12," but carrier/insurance not specified
  • "Shipping Insurance: Not Offered"
 
Must be the week for scams. I purchased/won item #300089708145 on ebay last week. Nice little 3OT old timer. I emailed the guy for shipping cost to Canada right after the close. That was last week and with 4 or 5 more attempts still no return email as of today. He has only been on ebay a few weeks and NO feedback. Should have known better but at least I did not send any money. I suspect his hope was the winner would pay right away and wait and wait and wait and never get the paid for merchandise. He had 6 or 7 schrades for sale. Hope no one else got stung.
 
No money = not much of a scam. :)

Heck, instead of wasting time rigging a phony auction, he could have worked at McDonalds for an hour and made more money.

-Bob
 
Wow, I didn't know this was so prevalent! I know, I did see the warning signs, including the blurry pictures, but I did check the recent feedbacks on some of the blurry sales and saw good responses. That brings into play Carl64's comments. Well I'll definitely leave a flaming feedback. I'm willing to accept half the responsibilty on this one, but the seller absolutely left me hanging, and I'm not the one who packed it. Well, I'm trying not to loose sleep over it, but it just gripes me that the guy would send something out that way after someone dumped a fair chunk of change on it. I certainly wouldn't, and don't ,treat a buyer that way, hell it takes me twenty minutes to pack one knife! Now look, I'm ranting again:grumpy: . I hope all you guys who are waiting have better luck than me, this kind of garbage really knocks the wind out of your sails.

Eric
 
Once burned, twice shy. I bought two knives from a guy which were counterfeit! I swear it took affidavits from Bernie Levine, 100 emails, and two months, and I got about $200 out of $300 back. And I flamed the lying S.O.B. righteously, twice plus responses. Now I check the signs carefully, email a request for insurance on every knife! Not as much fun, and I buy fewer knives! Ebay's loss!!
They are stupid to condone what they allow to happen!
 
I hope that you paid for this knife with a credit card through Paypal, Eric. If you did then you should contact your CC company. You shouldn't have to pay for something that you did NOT receive, especially since the seller used so little common sense in his shipping methods. Don't get me started...
 
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