Fire starting methods?

x39 said:
I'm a fan of birch bark and dried spruce twigs. I started a fire today with a magnesium/ferrocium fire starter and the aforementioned fuels. Conditions were 40 degrees, rain, and a stiff breeze. I had a fire going in no time.


I too am a BIG! fan of magblocks. They work well when mastered. Takes some patience but the payoff is big. The military includes these in kits for a reason.

If I had only one method long term that would be it. The great thing is the tinder is already handy as its in one compact, affordable, durable, lighweight unit.

Skam
 
Are there different qualities of Mag blocks? The one I got (Coughlan IIRC) it is like slicing bits of an anvil, seriously, you need a S90V knife so that it doesnt get dull. Its got to the point where I am ready to throw it out. I use a BlastMatch and find this the easiert thing after a live flame.
 
Temper said:
Are there different qualities of Mag blocks? The one I got (Coughlan IIRC) it is like slicing bits of an anvil, seriously, you need a S90V knife so that it doesnt get dull. Its got to the point where I am ready to throw it out. I use a BlastMatch and find this the easiert thing after a live flame.

Plus you have to endure the "nails against blackboard" sound whilst scraping those shavings :grumpy: Birch bark and Cotton Wool :thumbup:
 
I got this idea from a survival website five or six years ago, and played around with the concept quite a bit. Get some strike anywhere wooden matches, tie about a dozen of them together with dental floss, soak them in melted Gulf Coast parrafin wax (get in the canning section of the grocery) several times until they're really covered with a thick coat, and store them in the little waterproof bottles that prescription medicines come in. Experiment a little bit with just the size that will fit in well.

The beauty of this is that you have something that you can strike on the nearest rock, it burns like the fires of hell for several minutes, and is not only waterproof by itself, but it stays stored in a waterproof container. Being a belt and suspenders type of guy when it comes to stuff like this, I also carry some dryer lint soaked with the same wax. Never had to use it in an actual wilderness emergency, but it gives me a good feeling to know that if I had to start a fire quick, especially in less than ideal conditions with less than ideal kindling (i.e. a little damp), then I've got something that will burn like perdition's flames for at least five minutes, giving me about the best chance of getting an emergency fire going short of carrying around a small flamethrower.

Don't know what it's like in your part of the country, but if you haven't bought strike-anywhere matches in the last twenty years, then I might be able to save you some trouble. You probably won't be able to find them in the usual places. To make a long, long story short, if you have an Amish community within a four hour drive, next time you're in the area, go to the general store and buy several boxes.

I played around with this in my backyard at night quite a few times (Yes, my wife thinks that I'm crazy. She's probably right.), and finally settled on twenty-five or so of these bad boys tied together, half the heads on either end, and it fills up a medium sized prescription bottle. This gives more fodder for the fuel, as well as an extra chance to get it struck and lit in case you wear the heads off of one end (never had this happen to me, by the way).

A couple of these in my backpack, along with the waxed lint in a ziplock bag, has accompanied me on a number of backpacking trips.
 
Temper said:
Are there different qualities of Mag blocks? The one I got (Coughlan IIRC) it is like slicing bits of an anvil, seriously, you need a S90V knife so that it doesnt get dull. Its got to the point where I am ready to throw it out. I use a BlastMatch and find this the easiert thing after a live flame.


Warning:

I broke 2 blast matches in dead of winter. The R&D was lacking in its flimsy plastic design in winter temps. Traded it up for a Strike force. No problems since although its big and bulky.

Still prefer the mag block for its spark AND tinder for hundreds of fires though and its light weight low volume.

I attached a small pice of hacksaw blade to the magblock for shaving as to not dull the blades, works great.

Skam
 
Really? What part broke?

I have used my exclusively for every firestarting task I have.
 
Temper said:
Really? What part broke?

I have used my exclusively for every firestarting task I have.


The plastic swing arms broke off and the lip edge where the flint is held cracked. BAd plastic for the cold as it gets brittle.

This is not uncommon for this unit (do a search) especially in the winter cold so be carefull. All is not lost as even if it does break it can still be scraped but wont work as designed. I do however like the design for one handed operation. If they fix the plastic I may buy another.

http://outdoors-magazine.com/s_article.php?id_article=14

Skam
 
Regardles to the many more or less comfortable ways to ignite a fire, I have found out, that some of the insect repeallants in liquid form make good firestarters. As I usual item in my pack, I make sure that they are of that typ.
 
longbow50 said:
a mag bar that I have scraped a film canister full of the magnesium for ease of access.
Does that magnesium still work after it's been shaved and left for 6 months? I'd have thought it would slowly oxidise (or quickly if fine enough) and then be useless.
 
What about using metalic sodium as a fire starter? Just add a small piece to water and you will have a flame.
 
"...that some of the insect repeallants in liquid form make good firestarters..."

I carry US G.I. but juice for this, as well as keeping bugs away. It doesn't ignite much all by itself, but squirt some on tinder (dry twigs will do) then apply a match (haven't tried this with just a spark) and poofff, you have fire...
 
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