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Hickory n steel

Hickory n steel

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Anyone got any ideas for firearms they'd like to see ?

I'd like to see a .22 home defense carbine with an instant double tap feature.
A very simple gun like a 10/22 which offers two shots with one action.
Maybe dual triggers or something ( iirc the binary trigger thing is a no go now ? ), rear trigger gives you one shot and the front trigger gives you one shot while also actuating the rear for an immediate second shot.
Would be good for those who don't want to worry about over-penetration of a centerfire rifle round or can't easily get something like an AR if at all, and the instant double tap would give some decent stopping power with the lowly .22 LR.

I've often thought 10 rounds anything as fast as you can pull the trigger would be enough to put someone down and to be able to make those shots in half the time with no skill would probably give you the effectiveness of AR at those distances.
Maybe not apples to apples, but imagine if you weren't restricted to the 10rd mags. Even .22lr would be great when you've got a 30rd may you can dump with half the effort.
 
I’d like to see a 10/22 magnum again as well.

A H&R700 is a damn fine substitute stock rifle, although it has zero aftermarket support which the 10/22 strives on.
 
How much recoil do you experience with a rifle sized .22lr? o_O Some effort in mastering your weapon should allow you to execute double taps without waiting for a hardware solution that may never come.
 
I would like to see Ruger offer the 99/44 again (44 magnum semi auto rifle). Wiki lists it at 6.25 lbs. Maybe even a 357 mag version, too.

not2sharp said:
I would like to see a Ruger 10/22 in 22 magnum.

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I could have sworn that Ruger at one time made a 10/22 style rifle in 22 magnum... Wiki says 1998-2006. I'm surprised they don't still offer a .17 caliber, since my local shops seem to always have boxes of the stuff.
 
Better aftermarket stocks for the m1 carbine, as well as more hollow points available. I believe Cor-Bon dpx is the only one available. Everything else is FMJ. Last I checked at least.
 
kamagong said:
How much recoil do you experience with a rifle sized .22lr? o_O Some effort in mastering your weapon should allow you to execute double taps without waiting for a hardware solution that may never come.
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Sure, but I figure In a stressful waking up I the middle of the night type situation the ability to double your shot count without thought might be a good thing.
Especially for those people ( there's a lot of them out there ) who have no kids around and just lean an old 22 In the corner and call it good.
With a grip activated light / Lazer built into the forearm I think this could be a good option for a lot of people.
 
You're ignoring physics here. The .22lr recoil, however minimal, does have an impact on the weapon. While you may know where the first shot will go, the second shot of an automated double tap will be less certain. That is a problem for your target audience. Do you really want folks who won't spend the time learning to properly use a gun the enhanced ability to send bullets flying wildly?

Your dream gun is a spray and pray weapon.
 
kamagong said:
You're ignoring physics here. The .22lr recoil, however minimal, does have an impact on the weapon. While you may know where the first shot will go, the second shot of an automated double tap will be less certain. That is a problem for your target audience. Do you really want folks who won't spend the time learning to properly use a gun the enhanced ability to send bullets flying wildly?

Your dream gun is a spray and pray weapon.
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Sure both rounds would not impact the exact same spot, but I've seen footage of that binary trigger in an AR and both shots were very close to each other.
In a .22 I believe both shots would be within an inch or two of each other, I also believe this double shot mechanism would likely be faster than most people's trigger response time.
Two shots at a time that should impact very close together I would not consider pay and spray but I guess it would need to exist and be tested to really know.

This is just an idea I came up with yesterday so I can't really argue, maybe it's not a good idea but it seems like one to me.
 
10/22 magnum would be awesome.

I always wanted a Ruger .22 rifle that used the magazines from the mk2 pistol or a pistol that uses 10/22 magazines.

A reproduction 1842 Ashton .54 caliber smooth bore cap and ball pistol. It was the standard Calvary pistol during the Spanish American war.

A .22 conversion kit for my Springfield 1903. I inherited it and it’s one of the ones with the questionable heat treat on the receiver. So it’s not safe to shoot.
 
eveled said:
10/22 magnum would be awesome.

I always wanted a Ruger .22 rifle that used the magazines from the mk2 pistol or a pistol that uses 10/22 magazines.

A reproduction 1842 Ashton .54 caliber smooth bore cap and ball pistol. It was the standard Calvary pistol during the Spanish American war.

A .22 conversion kit for my Springfield 1903. I inherited it and it’s one of the ones with the questionable heat treat on the receiver. So it’s not safe to shoot.
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What about a repro Pederson device, now that would be a cool way to be able to shoot that family heirloom.
 
There is a Thunderstruck pistol which is volley fire (and so legal). Has 2 barrels and puts out 2 rounds with each trigger pull;
https://stdgun.com/s333-thunderstruck/

I want a .32mag revolver with 8 or more rounds in it with a top rail for a dot and bottom rail for a light.

Also, a revolver made for 38 wadcutters and so as short as possible as you wouldn't need the long cylinder then.
 
I'd like a double action .22 revolver like a Smith and Wesson model 63 or Ruger LCR with two cylinders for a .22LR/.22magnum. They can make it in single actions like the Ruger single six and the Heritage single action revolvers, why not double action?

And if it's soooo easy to do it in a single action, why not a Ruger bearcat in .22LR/.22magnum?
 
J jackknife They made a convertible Bearcat had some issue and recalled them. The issue was attributed to user era. I think it had to do with shooting too fast?

Anyways you can definitely have a cylinder bored out to .22 mag for the Bearcat. Then send the gun to Ruger saying you lost the cylinder and they’ll fit a new one.

A part of me really wants to do this but I don’t know why. I have magnum cylinders for single sixes that never get used.
 
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eveled said:
10/22 magnum would be awesome.

I always wanted a Ruger .22 rifle that used the magazines from the mk2 pistol or a pistol that uses 10/22 magazines.

A reproduction 1842 Ashton .54 caliber smooth bore cap and ball pistol. It was the standard Calvary pistol during the Spanish American war.

A .22 conversion kit for my Springfield 1903. I inherited it and it’s one of the ones with the questionable heat treat on the receiver. So it’s not safe to shoot.
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There’s an Intratec Tec-22 that uses 10/22 magazines.
 
Hickory n steel said:
Anyone got any ideas for firearms they'd like to see ?

I'd like to see a .22 home defense carbine with an instant double tap feature.
A very simple gun like a 10/22 which offers two shots with one action.
Maybe dual triggers or something ( iirc the binary trigger thing is a no go now ? ), rear trigger gives you one shot and the front trigger gives you one shot while also actuating the rear for an immediate second shot.
Would be good for those who don't want to worry about over-penetration of a centerfire rifle round or can't easily get something like an AR if at all, and the instant double tap would give some decent stopping power with the lowly .22 LR.

I've often thought 10 rounds anything as fast as you can pull the trigger would be enough to put someone down and to be able to make those shots in half the time with no skill would probably give you the effectiveness of AR at those distances.
Maybe not apples to apples, but imagine if you weren't restricted to the 10rd mags. Even .22lr would be great when you've got a 30rd may you can dump with half the effort.
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Ruger produced a 10/22 Magnum for a while, but eventually stopped for some reason or another.

Alright, in the spirit of the thread, I'd like to see Glock take their 43X/48 slimline idea, and apply it to the Glock 21/30 for a slimline .45 ACP pistol, just to see what sort of dimensions and performance we'd actually have as a result. Glock's answer to the 1911.
 
Hickory n steel said:
Sure, but I figure In a stressful waking up I the middle of the night type situation the ability to double your shot count without thought might be a good thing.
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kamagong said:
You're ignoring physics here. The .22lr recoil, however minimal, does have an impact on the weapon. While you may know where the first shot will go, the second shot of an automated double tap will be less certain. That is a problem for your target audience. Do you really want folks who won't spend the time learning to properly use a gun the enhanced ability to send bullets flying wildly?
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I think the standard 10/22 would make an excellent home defense weapon. It has to be reliable however. Double taps.... no problem. Just practice a bit and the second shot should not be "flying wildly". I would have absolutely no problem doing pretty accurate double taps with a 10/22. Cut the stock down if you want something smaller. But as is, that little rifle points very well. No need for laser sights if you practice some. It has to be almost instinctive.

We used to hunt rabbits being trailed by our dogs with 22 rifles and even running they weren't hard to hit with a rifle you are very familiar with.

Ruger did make a 10/22 in 22 Mag. The Remington 597 was also made in 22 mag.

Ruger does make a pistol (large one) using essentially the 10/22 receiver.
 
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