First Aid Stuff

The very top pocket on my Maxped Versipak contains my ouch kit. One item I've recently added that has proven quite useful is a couple of small one-time-use anti-sting pads. I've used them on others for bee stings and bites and they work very well and take up very little room.
 
I like dealing with the Red Cross folks too. sometimes they have new stuff that they are given by manufacturers to try out so that's kinda neat.
I got a tube of Fastum to try out the other day. It's like icy hot prescription grade. My vet said it's "solamente para caballos"..LOL
Only for horses.
The Red Cross guys use it for sprains and twists for kids hurt playing soccer.
That and a pill called Cataflam which ROCKS on these old knees .

I was over ordering some sting wipe refills and they hooked me up with some stuff.They always do.
Last time I got some Allergel that was great for chigger bites.
 
This has probably been discussed a zillion times but I've got a particular angle I want to discuss.

This thread is aimed mainly at those of you who tend to have an EDC bag of some kind that you have with you most of the time and is big enough to hold a small first aid kit.

I have discovered that most first aid kits are packed full of stuff I've never had the need for on a day to day basis. It just sits there and never really gets used, I don't tend to cut my arms off or have heart attacks all that often.

I have decided to go minimalist. I've bought a small plastic box and in it are:

Some alcohol wipes.
Some iodine wipes.
Small tube of antiseptic cream.
Some of those fabric type bandaids.
Some ibuprophin analgesics.

That's it, never really had the need for anything else on a daily basis.

How about you guys, any other minimalists out there?

About the only thing I need in a pack is something for headaches, and something for blood.

I use Aleve for the head, and have added some thick bandages to my every day kit for blood loss.

Only other first aid I've been around was burns (back pack trip where dog knocked over boiling water in camp on friends leg, so she spent the night with her leg in the creek until we could hike out), two broken bones in lower arm (needed a splint), and insulin related diabetic shock (use honey).

Edited to add: saw the post on stings, which reminds me that an Epi-pen would be a very good item to have along. Not needed very often, but could definitely save someone's life when it was.

Also heard that Colgate toothpaste is good for stings, because it has baking soda in it.
 
As part of a CERT and boy scout class I give on wilderness first aid I teach these things. These stats are from first aid statistics in the wilderness.

80% of the injuries you are going to deal with are cuts and bruises (27% ) and strains and sprains (53%)

Of the strains and sprains that you are going to deal with 64% are going to be to the ankle and knee.

As far as illness 60% will be from diarrhea.

So if you want to pack the least to take care of the most you should prepare as follows:
HIRICE for the injuries. Hydration, Ibuprofen (Lots of Ibuprofen), Rest, Ice (cooling streams work good or pouring cool water over a rag draped on the injury or soaking), Compression, Elevation.
Learn how to improvise splints and padding.
Also teach hand washing and carry alcohol based hand cleaning material and Imodium to prevent and help treat and stop the spreading of the diarrhea. Also band aids to keep wounds clean and povidone Iodine for both cleaning wounds and can be used to purify water.

Yes, I carry lots more than that but they expect me to deal with a lot more than just run of the mill ouchies.

KR
 
I have current Red Cross certs in CPR and First Aid. I don't carry a mask, but my car kit includes one.

As so many other people in this thread have said, the kit I carry with my everyday is just an 'ouch' kit. It's got:

some gauze pads
some bandaids in different sizes
some alcohol wipes
some neosporin
Advil
Tylenol

I also have a flashlight and SAK Classic on my keychain (the alcohol pads are good for cleaning things, they don't go directly on wounds). I should probably add something for bug bites and upset stomach, but haven't gotten around to it yet.

This little kit rides in a small plastic case in my backpack. My wife carries an identical kit in an identical case in her purse.

I've been considering putting a better 'ouch' kit together along with an EDC package to live in something like a Countycomm pocket organizer (like a really small murse :D) all of which can live in a cargo pocket.
 
It's a bit of a suprise that no one has ever had a case of the runs when they are out on the road, or at work or camping. It will really put you down pretty fast if you have not planned for it. Just a couple small tabs of imodium will really help
 
It's a bit of a suprise that no one has ever had a case of the runs when they are out on the road, or at work or camping. It will really put you down pretty fast if you have not planned for it. Just a couple small tabs of imodium will really help

I totally agree as someone that had it happen while camping. I had cat holes dug all around my tent for 2 nights. I would wake up and immediately need to run out of the tent in the middle of the night, several times a night and it wouldn't have been pretty without the pre-fabs I dug. :eek:

Those holes in addition to the Imodium kept it from getting really ugly, at least kept it from getting as ugly as it could have.

KR
 
I keep a little kit in my edc backpack, it has:

bandaids
butterfly closures
alcohol wipes
neosporin packets
ibuprofen and loperamide
1 pair latex gloves
[...]

It's a bit of a suprise that no one has ever had a case of the runs when they are out on the road, or at work or camping. It will really put you down pretty fast if you have not planned for it. Just a couple small tabs of imodium will really help

:thumbup:
 
The pocket mask is more designed to act as a barrier between the victim and the responder. It's mostly there in the event that the victim regurgitates. You wouldn't want vomitus, would you? ;) It's also for prolonged rescue breathing. Much easier to breath through a mask that makes a seal with the victim, than to have to make a seal physically using your mouth.

Plus, the mouth is full of germs. Staph bacteria comes to mind.

The Red Cross doesn't teach CPR anymore without using a pocket mask for these reasons and more.

under the new guidlines for CPR you do not breath for the individual anymore. you just do chest pumps. my fiance has to take CPR once or twice a year bc she works with special needs kids.
 
under the new guidlines for CPR you do not breath for the individual anymore. you just do chest pumps.

This is only if you have no pocket mask or other barrier for protection or are a bystander with no training. The guidelines still include 2 breaths for every 30 compressions for adults. For layman CPR I believe that they also no longer include a check at the carotid to check for pulse.

Caveat: I am an "expert" only in healthcare CPR. It is possible that there are changes to layman CPR that I don't know about but I haven't heard of this.
Corrections appreciated.

KR
EMT/Wilderness EMT
 
the current guidelines for CPR for medical personnel still teaches ventilation, by mouth (ideally w/ pocket mask or another barrier) or using a bag-valve-mask system.
 
Good info here.

I'll add one piece of gear for an "ouch" or First Aid bag. A large bandanna. It can be used for large wounds, cut into strips, immobilizing a sprain/break, bathe wounds, heads, sun protection, etc. etc.

They cost a few bucks and can fold up easily. I always carry one in my left back pocket.
 
oh yes that is right --a bandanna. If you have the space try to grab one.
 
That's a pretty good idea. But carrying it in a back pocket isn't- not if the bandanna is supposed to stay dry. :eek:

Lemme clarify. I don't carry a First aid or ouch kit on me during a reg day but I do carry a bandanna in my pocket.

I do keep a clean, dry bandanna in my First aid kit in my car and hiking kit.

I was sloppy and lumped two topics together.
 
No pocket mask?

Does no one know how to do CPR and rescue breathing these days? It's still a good idea to carry one in case someone else knows how to perform the above.

Actually, anyone who knows how to do CPR knows that rescue breathing is pretty much not recommended for laypeople...
 
most diabetics should have some form of glucose laden sweet on them -i always have the jelly snakes -soft and easier to chew than hard candy therefore more quickly absorbed - dried apricots & other dried fruit are good too as are juices & cola type drinks NOT DIET drinks though.
NB -if a person s unconscious from HYPO glycaemia NEVER ATTEMPT to feed them-call an ambulance.If not unconscious they may argue & act like an idiot-please stay calm .
It's happened.
 
most diabetics should have some form of glucose laden sweet on them -i always have the jelly snakes -soft and easier to chew than hard candy therefore more quickly absorbed - dried apricots & other dried fruit are good too as are juices & cola type drinks NOT DIET drinks though.
NB -if a person s unconscious from HYPO glycaemia NEVER ATTEMPT to feed them-call an ambulance.If not unconscious they may argue & act like an idiot-please stay calm .
It's happened.


Diabetes is a strange affliction. My father has been a brittle diabetic (can go into insulin shock very quickly) since the age of 18. Growing up, our family had to be ready to take care of him at a moments notice if his insulin levels got out of balance. He would generally be aware he needed to eat some candy, but not always. When he didn't catch it, he would start to act strangely, almost like in a daze, and couldn't respond to us. My mom found out that honey worked incredibly well to bring him out of insulin shock, with no side effects afterward.

To the poster who said not to try to get someone out of an insulin coma -- that may work out if medical help is minutes away, but when it's not, you can still give honey. In a diabetic coma, the jaws tend to lock shut, and swallowing isn't an option. Honey can be spread on the gums, and the body will ingest it sufficiently to neutralize the excess insulin and bring the person out of a coma. Trust me -- this works. We've had to do it.

In response to his diabetes, my mom put us on a very strict vegan diet, with no sugar, oil, etc. While it was boring, we were pretty darn healthy, and my dad is the healthiest diabetic I know. He's 68 now, and still going very strong.

My next door neighbor (a Skagit County Sheriffs Officer) told me a rather harrowing story about a diabetic. He got a call that someone had just stolen a trailer out of someone elses yard, and went to investigate. He found the truck with the stolen trailer going down the road, and pulled the guy over. The driver was acting very strangely, moving jerkily and waving his arms and not responding to verbal commands very well. Because the driver was in the commission of a felony, and acting very strangely, Kyle ordered the driver to exit the car, and walk backwards towards him. The guy got out slowly, acting even more strangely, and by now Kyle had his AR-15 out and trained on the driver. The guy, instead of walking backwards, started walking forwards towards the sheriff car, then started putting his hands behind his back and moving them around. This looks very much like going for a gun, and Kyle told me he actually had his finger on the trigger and was starting to squeeze at this point.

Somehow, he figured something else was going on (thank God), and didn't shoot. With Kyle yelling at him, the driver finally stopped and turned around. He didn't have a gun, but he was a diabetic and was having an insulin reaction. His sugar levels had been dropping for some time, so when he went to get his truck and go pick up his own trailer, he somehow wandered into a strangers yard, hooked up their trailer, and then drove off to who knows where. The drivers wife had arrived by this time, and was able to give him something to bring his blood sugar level back up and get him back to a coherent state. I don't think any charges were filed, once the mess was sorted out. Turns out he'd been in trouble with the law as a much younger man, and remembered having to put his hands behind his back to be taken into custody. When he saw Kyle in his sheriffs car with the lights on, in his insulin daze he just reverted to his younger days and put his hands behind his back. Kyle is VERY thankful he didn't take the shot, even though he would have been completely justified in doing so.
 
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you're right about the response time of medical care -the honey trick is tried & tested -sounds good to me.
I 'm usually aware of the onset of hypoglcaemia & can relate it to my food intake vs activity.
Diabetes is an anchor & not at all convenient.
Sometimes it is difficult to get this across to friends who can go all day without eating.
Good luck to your dad & yourself.
 
Keep the iodine if there is any chance of not getting to greater care sooner than later.

Dilute a swab in a small zip lock bag of water. Prick a tiny hole and squeeze the bag to flush dirt out of a dirty wound. Use cake icing in tubes for diabetic shock, a lot less messy.

The above is wilderness first aid which is different than street first aid. Take a course in wilderness FA if you can as its more in depth.

Skam
WEMT
 
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