First aid?

I'll tell you what, you send me your CV, and I'll send you mine. On second thought.... of course not.
 
Ok. Pound sand. Better? Just trying to be a little more civilized, but if you prefer. And I still am not buying the tea oil or honey bullshit. Which is, as I recall, exactly your position and the position of knifedoc as well.
 
nemoaz said:
Ok. Pound sand. Better? Just trying to be a little more civilized, but if you prefer. And I still am not buying the tea oil or honey bullshit. Which is, as I recall, exactly your position and the position of knifedoc as well.
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ok, that makes no diffrence to me, its funny how quick you are to start things, shows me what type of person you really are.

Have fun around the forums now, I know I certainly wont be helping you anymore.
 
Funny that you view me as starting things. Did you think I deleted the previous wording because I thought better of it? Yet you posted it. But I'm starting things. Good night. It's late even out here.
 
knife doctor said:
BUT, be warned that spore forming bacteria can be found in honey (Clostridiun botulinum, specifically) and can cause illness. This is why children under the age of one year old should not be given honey!

MP
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Doc, is this true of just unprocessed honey or of any honey?

KR
 
I have tubes of, Neosporin + pain relief in every med. cabinet and first aid kit we own, stuff works great, little spendy though.

Helle
 
kr1 said:
Doc, is this true of just unprocessed honey or of any honey?

KR
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From what I understand it is very rare for anything to occur and only in the very young.

As far as I know unpasturized honey is what contains the active antibacterial properties (mild forms of hydrogen peroxide and others). these are not found in or in as much volume with high temp pasturized honey.

As far as honey being used to treat wounds; it has been done for a 1000's of years as no bacteria will live in it of any consequence. Honey doesn't go bad ever for a reason.

This all said modern medicine uses sugar therapy as well for the same reasons. Products like medical Manuka honey are used more and more for hard to heal wounds.

This is no BS people reseach it yourself I am tired of doing it for others.

Is it a miracle therapy? Of course not. But it could come in handy in the right situation.

For what its worth.

Skam
 
One great thing about the W&S forum is that, a few little tiffs here and there aside (some of which actually get pretty funny), we don't get alot of huge arguments. Another nice thing is the diversity of the answers and the research that actually goes into alot of them. It's good to see some of the qualified, licensed medical types in serious discussion with the homeopathic, folk-remedy types regarding alternative medicine and wilderness medicine...and, often, agreeing with one another. Sometimes, both sides learn something. We're lucky to have a good number of well educated people on this forum, whether that education came in an ivy-league classroom or at Great Grandma's knee. Actually, I'd like to extend this thought to a number of other subjects on the forum...best blade steel, best knife design, etc...
I just haven't run across a great deal of the useless 9mm vs. .45 ACP, Ford vs. Chevy, Blondes vs. Redheads type of debating here and I'm pretty happy about it.
 
If I had my druthers, though...a brunette, armed with a 10mm, in a Dodge...just kidding. Thanks, everybody, for making this forum a diverse and friendly place to exchange information.
 
Back in 1990 when we were engaged I took a pic of her shooting a Glock 19. She was wearing jeans and a pink sports bra halter top thing. I taped that pic to the inside of my locker at the FD. I had a couple of new guys see the pic and ask "who's the babe?" or on occasion "who's the bitch?". When I answered "my wife" the locker room got very quiet. BTW shoots shoots a S&W 1076 just as well as the G19.
 
our first date was to the range...she'd never fired a gun before and I'd just finished building a .45. She tried it and just kept firing bullseyes. The rangemaster came over and asked how long she'd been shooting and I answered "'bout half an hour". He says, "Naw, I mean how long has she been shooting in her life."

I replied, "Oh, sorry, uh...31 minutes, now."

She gets to the range more often than I do.
 
skammer said:
As far as I know unpasturized honey is what contains the active antibacterial properties (mild forms of hydrogen peroxide and others). these are not found in or in as much volume with high temp pasturized honey.
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I did a little web-research about this a little while ago (one of my hobbies is making mead), and it turns out that the pasteurization used in honey isn't up to the same temps that milk or fruit juice pasteurization is. They just heat the honey enough to kill the microorganisms that might start a ferment and to break up 'seed' crystals that will make the honey crystallize on the shelf. Apparently the botulin spores are pretty tough and are still viable after the heating process.

I never was able to determine if the alcohol content of the finished mead (12-15%) would kill the botulin spores, so just to be safe, I make a point of not giving mead to infants ;-).
 
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