First AR-15 platform, suggestions?

If you shoot one box of ammo a year, most any AR-15 will serve you adequately.

If you see any rifle training courses in your future, you will understand why the people there for the second course (or more) aren't shooting the budget models.

Second, there is a difference between a true target model or a game gun versus a top tier tactical AR-15. If you see DCM type shoots in your future, buy a DCM rifle. If you see "run and gun" games in your future, a more tactical model is where it is at.

I don't care about 1/2 groups out of my AR-15. I do care about reliability and good performance with bad ammo. A Colt 6920 isn't a sexy "brag" rifle, it is a good hard use cost effective rifle. I don't have to worry about barrel steel, buffer tube sizes, etc because it is built right. With good ammo and a good rifleman, it will shoot under 1 MOA all day long.

A premium AR-15 with mid-length gas is nice but, the Colt doesn't give up much there with it's carbine length gas. For myself, I'm looking at the Daniel Defense mid-length upper with a thin 14.5" barrel and a heavier S2W barrel. Both with AR-15 Lite rails. Each upper by itself runs a little over $1100. Why? I have a good lower ready to run and need uppers for high volumes of fire or lighter weight for more carry and less shooting. A registered lower and two push pins lets me change the character of my rifle in seconds.

Would I want to do this with a "franken-gun"? I voted with my walllet and don't regret the choice.

In your case, there are good reasons to spend $1100 on the Colt and add the free float rail later. A lesser rifle with a free float rail from the git go is not a step in the right direction IMHO. I'd rather add a quad rail then replace a subpar barrel.
 
I just placed an order today for a S&W M&P 15T, spent about 1050 shipped and taxed to my FFL dealer. I can't wait til i get it in my hands! grabagun is really a great site, and found that their prices are pretty hard to beat for rifles, was originally thinking of the stag model 3, but s&w took the spot when i saw it =)
 
I just placed an order today for a S&W M&P 15T, spent about 1050 shipped and taxed to my FFL dealer. I can't wait til i get it in my hands! grabagun is really a great site, and found that their prices are pretty hard to beat for rifles, was originally thinking of the stag model 3, but s&w took the spot when i saw it =)

Good choice you'll love it
 
I just placed an order today for a S&W M&P 15T
Congrats, that's a good price; actually cheaper than mine was 4-5 years ago. Snag some Pmags. It's a chrome lined barrel, so you won't have a tedious break-in process. Just run an oil patch through it, followed by a dry patch, lube the bolt and go sight it in with the BUIS.:thumbup:
 
I don't own one myself, but my brother owns a DPMS Panther Arms AR-15, chambered in .223.

It's a decent rifle, he got it for around $700. It has a strong kick, and it looks very nice aesthetically.

Cleaning is very easy.
 
Cleaning is very easy.

People clean their ARs?

Since this is the OPs first AR, should we cover this subject too?


When mine were brand new I degreased everything, got all that factory crap off, then covered the bolt, cam pin, carrier group in Slip2000 EWL and but a light coating on the buffer and spring. Then I just shoot them and not worry about them. If I were doing carbine courses and getting crud in them I might clean them, but just ammo residue I don't bother cleaning it unless it starts malfunctioning, but that's a lot of crud
 
People clean their ARs?

Since this is the OPs first AR, should we cover this subject too?


When mine were brand new I degreased everything, got all that factory crap off, then covered the bolt, cam pin, carrier group in Slip2000 EWL and but a light coating on the buffer and spring. Then I just shoot them and not worry about them. If I were doing carbine courses and getting crud in them I might clean them, but just ammo residue I don't bother cleaning it unless it starts malfunctioning, but that's a lot of crud

was actually looking at what lubes to use on my AR, ive read some people use motor oil as a lube. whats everyone's take on this idea? some say "sure use it, works great!" others are "use what it is made for (ie motor oil is motor oil and gun lube is gun lube)."
 
People clean their ARs?

Since this is the OPs first AR, should we cover this subject too?


When mine were brand new I degreased everything, got all that factory crap off, then covered the bolt, cam pin, carrier group in Slip2000 EWL and but a light coating on the buffer and spring. Then I just shoot them and not worry about them. If I were doing carbine courses and getting crud in them I might clean them, but just ammo residue I don't bother cleaning it unless it starts malfunctioning, but that's a lot of crud

It will eventually get all grimy and filthy from gunpowder residue, but shouldn't happen for a while. Depending on how much OP shoots his AR, and the type of ammo he buys.
 
People clean their ARs?

Since this is the OPs first AR, should we cover this subject too?


When mine were brand new I degreased everything, got all that factory crap off, then covered the bolt, cam pin, carrier group in Slip2000 EWL and but a light coating on the buffer and spring. Then I just shoot them and not worry about them. If I were doing carbine courses and getting crud in them I might clean them, but just ammo residue I don't bother cleaning it unless it starts malfunctioning, but that's a lot of crud

Hell yeah I clean my standard AR's. They are direct impingment so they basically blow hot filthy gas directly into the upper to push the bolt rearward, unlike the AK which uses a gas piston design which you literally never have to clean.

I believe one of the reasons (There were others) the original Stoner design did so poorly in Vietnam was they were under the impression you didn't have to clean them. Once they upped the cleaning frequency reliability increased significantly.

This is why I decided to pick up an LWRC for their piston system so I don't have to clean as much. Makes a HUGE difference. Also why I personally feel the AK, while not as accurate is a superior system.
 
Hell yeah I clean my standard AR's. They are direct impingment so they basically blow hot filthy gas directly into the upper to push the bolt rearward, unlike the AK which uses a gas piston design which you literally never have to clean.

I believe one of the reasons (There were others) the original Stoner design did so poorly in Vietnam was they were under the impression you didn't have to clean them. Once they upped the cleaning frequency reliability increased significantly.

This is why I decided to pick up an LWRC for their piston system so I don't have to clean as much. Makes a HUGE difference. Also why I personally feel the AK, while not as accurate is a superior system.

A lot of AK ammo (used to be anyway) was corrosive, shoot it, leave it, your barrel would get fubar or the piston/bolt would sieze. So depending on ammo, cleaning is required. As soon as my AR fails me with crud build up, I'll use that same amount of rounds in an AK and do the same. I'm at around 930 so far, not much, but it keeps going. My most shot AK only had aprox. 240 through

There are many people who run gas impingement ARs hard, for thousands of rounds without cleaning and they do fine. I have a gunsmith friend who put 8000 through his before he cleaned it. It never had a malfunction, he just cleaned it to see the carbon build up. Slip2000 claims they did a test of 22k rounds through an AR before they cleaned it. That's their claim anyway...

Before you baby them, run them hard, see what they are capable of. Hell I put 15,000 rounds through my Buckmark with no cleaning or lube just to see what the "breaking point" was.

Good lube is the key to an AR


Shoot it and store it
 
DPMS Panther Arms AR-15, chambered in .223...It has a strong kick.

LOL...

You won't find many guns with a tamer recoil impulse than a semiauto .223 rifle. That's excluding rimfires. Felt recoil is subjective though.
 
LOL...

You won't find many guns with a tamer recoil impulse than a semiauto .223 rifle. That's excluding rimfires. Felt recoil is subjective though.

No kidding. If you think an AR recoil is difficult to manage, you're really going to have trouble with a bolt-action rifle.
 
No kidding. If you think an AR recoil is difficult to manage, you're really going to have trouble with a bolt-action rifle.

I never said it was difficult to manage.
I just said it was strong.
And no, bolt actions are no problem. I love shooting the Mosin Nagant.
 
This is going to be my setup...
Aero Precision Lower, Aero Precision COP Mid-Length Upper

Plans:
Rainier Arms BCG - Phosphate
Daniel Defense Mid-Length CHF Barrel
Geissle 2 Stage Trigger
Armalite Lower Parts Kit
Magpul MIAD

Haven't Decided On:
Stock
Sights
Charging Handle
Muzzle Device
 
Here is my plans for one, I am going to build it myself...
Aero Precision Lower
Aero Precision COP Mid-Length Upper
Plans:
Rainier Arms BCG - Phosphate
Daniel Defense Mid-Length CHF Barrel
Geissle 2 Stage Trigger
Armalite Lower Parts Kit
Magpul MIAD

Haven't Decided On:
Stock
Sights
Charging Handle
Muzzle Device
 
hey guys, sorry its been a few days (work has been getting in the way). picked it up yesterday, and got my accessories in today. got a magpul moe+ grip, rail covers, magpul angled foregrip. As of now im looking for a magpul stock, B.A.D lever, getting the eotech 512 along with a magnifier and BCM charging handle. but most of these accessories will probably be months out before i have everything assembled. planning to take it out to the range this weekend! cant wait!
 
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