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First Going Gear Firesteel & Some Radiation Vectoring (wet-winter fire)

Mistwalker

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Today I went to my mail box and found I had gotten an early Christmas present, My first Going Gear firesteel, and one of the new strikers :) . Today....being as it has been raining and foggy for a several days now...was the perfect day to try it out :D You'll be able to see how wet it is up at the fire pit and how wet the wood is in the pics.

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The first materials I gathered were some dried dead lower branches from a couple of small Cedar trees and some dried dead hollow branches from a Honeysuckle bush.

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It had been my intention to start this fire without using any fatwood. I whittled a couple of small fuzz sticks from some of the cedar, a piece of pine, and a small piece of birch and made a little tinder pile...however while trying to light the damp fuzz sticks I had a reality moment when the mists became rain again. Because of that I got distracted by just trying to get the fire started and forgot to snap pics but I used a very small ball of fatwood fuzz to catch the sparks and ignite the fuzz sticks and smallest twigs of dead cedar. The Going Gear fire steel threw really nice hot sparks using the newly designed striker. And Storl was right the sparker works fine now matter which way you turn it or which hand you are using.

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Now here is where the radiation vectoring comes into play. This is the exact weather circumstances that taught me to make my fires the way I make them. It is often wet here in the southern end of the Appalachian Temperate Rain Forest, in the winter months it's cold and wet. This is how I do a winter weather fire under wet and rainy conditions. Once I get my smallest limbs burning good I start laying larger limbs beside the fire to both dry and control the direction the heat travels, and then pile more smaller dead limbs on top where the heat is rising. These on top hold the heat in as well and dry faster in the building heat until they start burning. Pine work great for this because even dry soaked dead pine will not hold much water due to all of the pine sap.

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as that catches I lay somewhat larger limbs on each side of the fire and squeeze them together some pushing the previous "side-limbs" that have dried into the fire and coals...and then pile more smaller ones on top again. Repeating this process until I have large logs beside the fire and some bigger stuff burning in the actual fire

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Once I have a good heat center I'll pile on some split hard wood even if I have to cut it green because while the pine burns hot it is a quick burning fuel. The hardwood will make a better bed of coals for a longer lasting heat base. Here you can see the wet Black walnut I have split and put on the fire starting to steam and the heat being held below it rising through it and drying it.

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Once that has stopped steaming so much I added more dead pine. This was soaking wet and some of it laying in puddles but there is so much heat at this point that it doesn't matter, it dries quickly and flares up. So, for my evening I spent about an hour and a half out in the freezing mists watching the fire burn.

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This was just one fire I know, but this was about as tough as the conditions get here without it being all out pouring rain so I am thinking I am really going to like this new firesteel. The new striker works great but I am also able to get great sparks using the spine of my SEAL Team which is great because this firesteel will live in the pouch on the sheath of this knife. I was also able to get good sparks using a hunk of chert. Even though this has only been the first fire I can say already that I like this firesteel much muuuuuuuuch better than the mischmetal firesteel from firesteel[dot]com.


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Another really good post, Mist, and, as usual, good pics, too.

How does that GG firesteel compare to your regular firesteels (other than the firesteel dot com ones)? It sounds like you like the GG striker, too: I'm going to have to get one and try it out.
 
Thanks Bob, glad you liked the thread.

Like I said it is just the first fire so I haven't had a lot of time to compare. Mainly I see that it is a little softer than the LMF firesteels but nothing like the FS.COM version. I really like how this thing throws sparks. I am going to add more to this thread as i get the chance to check it out more. The striker does work very well and is a great dedicated striker for those who like to carry a firesteel and a folding knife instead of a fixed blade. I can see it and one of these steels going into one of my small kits with a folding knife in the very near future.
 
G'day Brian

Yet another quality post :thumbup:

When things settle down after Christmas, I'm going to try one of Storls firesteels :D

I hope you & your family have a merry Christmas and a happy & prosperous New Year :thumbup::thumbup:




Kind regards
Mick
 
G'day Brian

Yet another quality post :thumbup:

When things settle down after Christmas, I'm going to try one of Storls firesteels :D

I hope you & your family have a merry Christmas and a happy & prosperous New Year :thumbup::thumbup:




Kind regards
Mick

Hi Mick,

Thanks man, glad you liked it. I think you'll like the firesteel.

Thanks, and I hope the same for you and yours!!
 
Great post Mistwalker. You wouldn't be a pyromaniac would you....?

Just kiddin man. Gotta know how to get and stay warm.
 
Great post Mistwalker. You wouldn't be a pyromaniac would you....?

Just kiddin man. Gotta know how to get and stay warm.

Thanks Mike, glad you enjoyed the post.

Well...no...no not really lol. Spend about an hour listening to doctors arguing over why they should and why they shouldn't remove six of your toes. Luckily the guy arguing the "shouldn't" point won in the end. After that's it's interesting just how much stuff that you learn in life is applied to the knowledge of how to create warmth.
 
Good post, looks like a smart fire building technique for those conditions. I knew you'd like the super striker. I use the spine of my knife mostly, but those dedicated strikers are the best I have tried.
 
nice job man. i was just out working on winter fire building today.


Thanks man. It's a lot easier to get motivated to make the fire happen when it's actually cold. Some times when I practice in the summer here it's not the same because when it's ninety-something degrees I really don't care if I get fire or not some times :)


Good post, looks like a smart fire building technique for those conditions. I knew you'd like the super striker. I use the spine of my knife mostly, but those dedicated strikers are the best I have tried.


Thanks, glad you liked it.

Yeah, I'm sure there are other techniques but that is just what has worked best for me over all the years of hunting, trapping, and commercial fishing, and living in camps on river shores for weeks at a time. It can get really cold in the winter down on the river bank. The goal has always been to get as warm as possible as quickly as possible
 
I knew you'd like the super striker. I use the spine of my knife mostly, but those dedicated strikers are the best I have tried.

I am currently waiting on my first SAK, the Swiss Army Soldiers Knife, and I can see this striker being put in a more urban kit built around that knife.
 
Great post Mistwalker. You wouldn't be a pyromaniac would you....?

I'm always worried that if I was a suspect in an arson case, the prosecution would point to my threads here, my store, my videos on youtube, and my drawers full of fire starting gear. I think the jury deliberation would be about 5 seconds.

Great thread, MW. I'm glad to see people are liking the strikers.
 
Great technique demonstration Mistwalker. I'm going to keep that in mind and practice it next time I'm camping. Around this time of year, even if you start with dry wood, the snow has a way of finding its way and wetting the surfaces of everything.
 
I'm always worried that if I was a suspect in an arson case, the prosecution would point to my threads here, my store, my videos on youtube, and my drawers full of fire starting gear. I think the jury deliberation would be about 5 seconds.

Great thread, MW. I'm glad to see people are liking the strikers.


Thanks Storl.

Mostly I just hope that if somebody ever gets mad at and stabs my ex (a very real possibility with her personality) that I have a good alibi and lots of witnesses as to my whereabouts at the time. I may know that if I were going to do that it would have happened a long time ago but...:rolleyes:


Great technique demonstration Mistwalker. I'm going to keep that in mind and practice it next time I'm camping. Around this time of year, even if you start with dry wood, the snow has a way of finding its way and wetting the surfaces of everything.


Thanks Ken, glad you liked it. I didn't understand the physics of it as well when dad taught me to do that as a kid as i do today....but it really does work well. If I had wanted to keep that fire going for an extended period of time I would have had more larger logs split and laying across the ends to dry in the hot air passing under them without blocking the air flow. The end result in camp during the winter was a fire built between two logs eight feet long or so and about twenty inches or two feet in diameter, with a bed of coals over a foot thick and four feet long with logs continually drying across the ends. The fires would burn for days on end alternately dying down while we were out on the river or asleep and being built back up while we cooked and hung out together buy the fire. It's almost like an above ground variation of a Dakota fire pit.


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Mistwalker, it is always good to see someone putting tools to use in real world conditions. I was in the Slick Rock Wilderness in North Carolina this past October and failed miserably at getting a fire going. It had rained for a few days and did not let up the whole time I was in the woods. We were camped at about 3,000 feet elevation and in the clouds and everything was saturated. Water condensed on the tarp I had up and dripped down on what I was trying to keep dry. Fortunately I was able to keep me and my inexperienced companions dry and warm through the night with the right gear. I like to think that if I NEEDED to get a fire going, I would have been able to, but it would have required several hours of additional preparation. But I have reached the conclusion that late fall and early spring backpacking will always include a small axe to be able to split wood to get to the heartwood if I need it.
 
Hey Mist..its good to see you again. I'm always amazed by the detail you put in these threads. I like that fire steel! It seems like agood idea in that you can turn it around/change directions to avoid that "sharp like a pencil" effect that happens to the others after a bit.. Whats the actual lenght in inches on that? Have you tried it with the Bryan&Brian beveled spine? Do it Man!!!! :) We NEED pics of the "blast of sparks" coming off that!
 
Mistwalker, it is always good to see someone putting tools to use in real world conditions. I was in the Slick Rock Wilderness in North Carolina this past October and failed miserably at getting a fire going. It had rained for a few days and did not let up the whole time I was in the woods. We were camped at about 3,000 feet elevation and in the clouds and everything was saturated. Water condensed on the tarp I had up and dripped down on what I was trying to keep dry. Fortunately I was able to keep me and my inexperienced companions dry and warm through the night with the right gear. I like to think that if I NEEDED to get a fire going, I would have been able to, but it would have required several hours of additional preparation. But I have reached the conclusion that late fall and early spring backpacking will always include a small axe to be able to split wood to get to the heartwood if I need it.


Glad you enjoyed the thread. At certain times of the year and in some places it's just not worth the effort it takes if you have other means of preparing meals and such. But in the colder months it's always good to have a good accelerant of some sort and something you can split with. For me that's usually a few bars of trioxane, some wet fire, and a big knife but that's just me... others have their own combinations of similar items.
 
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