First high end folder - Spyderco military

kgd

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I acquired my first high end folder knife today through a trade with a fellow forum member. The trade involved a fixed blade that wasn't getting the love it deserved and to somebody who really had an eye for it from previous handling so all and all the trade was an example one of those great situations of why the community of blade forums works so well.

Anyhow, my acquired knife was a Spyderco military. I've had a couple of delica's that have been lost in the past. I also owned the delica's long before I really became interested in knives. This is my first step up to a full quality spyderco folder. It is a full serrated model which I wanted for my purposes. Basically, I wanted a stainless, serrated knife to throw in my boat bag and it will see a lot of rope cutting duty particularly with the nets we are using. My preference would probably be for a fixed one like the aqua-salt knives, but the folder works for the intended purpose and I was able to acquire it by trade instead of saving up cash. Plus, I was very curious about the higher end folders that spyderco is so famous for.

I should stress that I am not a folder guy. Other than a few SAKs and leatherman, and prior to being a knife nut who at one timed owned two delica's, I have resisted the urge to get into folders. I really still prefer fixed blades, but I am coming around to the fact that a folder has its place in the world also. So what you are getting is a fixed blade knife guy's impressions of a good and well respected folder. The spyderco military has been around for a while. There are a million different reviews available, so here goes my first impressions. Despite having researched this knife pretty thoroughly, it still held a few surprises for me so perhaps I can convey some of those impressions here.

The specs:

Blade: CPM VG10 (this version), 4", serrations about 3/4" up the knife. 1/8" thick at the spine, but aggressive tapering towards the tip. Full flat grind and chisel bevel. Handle: textured black G10. Very grippy!

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The grip in the hand is quite comfy. I really want to take the clip off and might do so. I don't like the feel of the clip on the palm of my hand, but I will hold off and see how I like it. The clip is not reversible and is orientated to carry tip down. I tried wearing the knife with the clip in the pocket. It seems fine, but honestly, I don't know what the whole 'revolution of carrying a knife by clip' is all about. It does secure the blade for retrieval, but then, I don't like how the clip feels in the palm of my hand when holding the knife. I'm toying with the idea of getting a kydex sheath for it with Merc-harness and removing the clip but will see.

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The textured jimping on the thumb ramp serves its purpose well. It provides a great deal of traction for the thumb. There is also textured jimping on the frame lock lever which helps hold your index finger in the finger notch. The ergos (aside from my clip quip above) are superb. Your hand just locks. The handle is very generous and the textured G10 super grippy.

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The serrations are nice and aggressive. I had a serrated delica a while back before and liked how they work. Rope cutting will be a major use for this knife and the serrations will help tremendously here.

I knew going in that the tip on this blade is rather delicate. It thins out aggressively to an extremely pointy point. There simply isn't much metal behind the tip and it is no wonder so many folks have lost their tip doing inappropriate things with their knife.

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You'll notice on the picture above showing the blade from the top of the spine the funny orientation of the tip. This is due to the chisel bevel. Looking at the flat face of the blade on each side you see that the bevel occurs on the left face of the blade and no bevel on the right. This was a surprise for me. I assumed it would come as a V-grind.

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The blade is nicely sharp and easily push cuts paper on the plane portion near the tip. As much as I am a bit afraid of the delicate tip, I admire it for its extreme sharpness. A little prick that easily draws blood! If I were to become blood brothers with somebody (which one doesn't do in the hygenic age of aids), I'd like having the Military to poke my finger!

Here is a size comparison of the military and some fixed blades, the JK kephart (4.5" blade), RC-4 (4") and RC-6.

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You can see that although the military has a 4" blade, there is much less metal on the triangle shaped blade compared to equivalent length fixed blades. As a result, the military is a much lighter weight and comparatively much lighter duty knife even though a quick look at the specs might falsely convince you otherwise.

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While serrations aren't ideal for wood cutting, you can still get decent fuzzies from them. Admittedly though, the RC-4 produced better fuzzies and as expected is a better at carving.

No, I'm not going to baton the military. Lock is very solid though. I like the liner lock and how it engages. I like that I can disengage it one handed. I like how smooth the knife opens up and the solid and intuitive feel of opening the blade via the spyder-hole. There is no learning curve to this action. It just automatically happens. I never managed to get good results flicking knives with thumbstuds, but the spyderhole certainly works.

I've handled a spyderco manix in the past. The military is a much smaller knife compared to the heavier manix. Yet, in terms of a pocket folder, I like the attributes that the Military has to offer. I will be careful with and am conscious that this is a knife for cutting and slicing not for prying and carving. I have a lot of high hopes for this knife in the long run.

Last thing for the knife enthusiasts. The spine readily produces sparks off a firesteel!

Overall, the Spyderco Military appears to be a great blade and I can finally begin to appreciate what it is all about in terms of using a quality locking folder. I'm certainly not going to forgo my fixed blade knives anytime soon, but the miltary appears to be a pocket gem.
 
Good review kgd! I've been carrying a variation of the Military for close to 10 years now...yeah, I'm in the Military:o :D I started out with the fully serrated verision and now have a couple of the new versions, but with plain edges. In uniform, I carry two folders...left side (weak side) is my Military and strong side (right side) is usually an Emerson. I've found the Military and awesome slicer and good backup blade. Forgot to add that the handle is one of the most comfortable and you'd be amazed at how it handles with different chores...

ROCK6
 
You'll notice on the picture above showing the blade from the top of the spine the funny orientation of the tip. This is due to the chisel bevel. Looking at the flat face of the blade on each side you see that the bevel occurs on the left face of the blade and no bevel on the right. This was a surprise for me. I assumed it would come as a V-grind.

The plain-edge Military is a v-grind. Only the serrated portions are chisel ground. But since yours is essentially entirely serrated, they didn't bother putting the v-grind on the very small plain portion at the tip.
 
Great review! I love folders, and they were my first bulge into knives. I have since started into more fixed blades, and am around 50-50 now. Folders will always have a place in the bush, but they will never replace the fixed blade.
 
The plain-edge Military is a v-grind. Only the serrated portions are chisel ground. But since yours is essentially entirely serrated, they didn't bother putting the v-grind on the very small plain portion at the tip.

Thanks for the clarification Esav! Also good additional comments Rock6. Good to know that this is one of your preferred folders. I will wear it with more confidence now!
 
hey kgd the blade steel is cpm s30v not vg10 and the thickness is 5/32 not 1/8 great pics i love my para milli
 
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I'd have to say my folder gets more use in the woods than my fixed blade so I guess you could say that mine has replaced my fixed blade. Spydercos are great knives. I believe you will enjoy yours for a long time. One of the best folders I EDC is a Spyderco Native with S30V. Hence the username ;)
 
I just ordered one like it. Wanted a serrated for work. I like a plainedge for woods work. Jeff Randall took one to the jungle, and had no complains.
 
hey kgd the blade steel is cpm s30v not vg10 and the thickness is 5/32 not 1/8 great pics i love my para milli

You're right Pimp. I should read the print on the blade :D Actually I was confused with another knife on offer at the time of the trade that was VG10.

5/32 - I sure is heck wouldn't believe it. Perhaps that bit of the tang that hooks into the lock is that thick. The rest of the knife tapers really aggressively. The very time has about the same thickness as my cheese cutter :D You guys aren't going to tell me this thing is made for abuse. It isn't. It is a finely crafted precision tool optimized for cutting and slicing. I'll treat it as such.
 
It isn't. It is a finely crafted precision tool optimized for cutting and slicing. I'll treat it as such.

I just measured mine. From the back of the tang to over the spydie hole, it's 5/32 all right.

It depends on what you call abuse. I was out for a walk last night, and came to a couple of trees that the owners let grow over the sidewalk, and the lower branches hang very low.

I don't like getting hit in the face, and I don't bow to people, so why would I bow to a branch? :)

Millie out and chopping. Branches kicked onto the lawn. All of them under 1/2" but still ... I just don't chop with the tip.
 
I don't know what the whole 'revolution of carrying a knife by clip' is all about. It does secure the blade for retrieval, but then, I don't like how the clip feels in the palm of my hand when holding the knife.
Well put together review. :thumbup:

I can't say that it is in fact how it happened but from my perspective, before the clip, everyone was wearing a "buckknife" on a belt pouch. Not necessarily a Buck knife, but as a generic term like kleenex. The knives were a bit big for pocket carry so went on a belt pouch.

With the clip addition, you could have a similar sized knife as the "buck knife" but it would hang in a pocket and still allow other stuff in the pocket.

Along with the thumb-hole (or thumbstud, or thumbdisk which were all going strong at the time) the clip made a quick opening of a folder a reality for the first time.

During the "buck knife" days, you had to unsnap your pouch, pull out the knife, open it using two hands via the nail nick, and then cut something.

Did the world still spin without the clip and one hand opening? Sure, but it wasn't quite as sweet. :)
 
Thanks again Esav.....

Zen, that makes a lot of sense and thanks for the back story. I think I was just over reacting to the clip. Us fixed blade guys are used to being super picky on the handle and this handle feels great except for the clip that seems foreign to my hand when grabbing it. Function over form in this case. I've used my SAKs enough to appreciate the one hand opening advantage. Makes sense that you can get a bigger knife in your pocket when it is suspended by the clip too!
 
I have an old straight-edge ATS-55 version I picked up back in the military and I plan on getting a second one in S30V (anyone want to swap?). It's a huge folder, but it weighs next to nothing. I have used it extensively outdoors and when weight is an issue it has been my only knife at times. It gets amazingly sharp, is very comfortable and is capable on snap cutting smaller branches without any problems or damage. My biggest complaint is that the pocket clip is not reversible and it doesn't hold onto thinner material like nylon hiking pants very well. Now only if they would make a Waved version.

I'm thinking of getting a Paramilitary, too.
 
Hey Fonly, is that "k" as in Kage or KGD? If it's directed towards me, no email.
 
The mili or para mili are next up on my list to purchase. One question though, KGD mentioned the mili is tip down carry with the clip. Is this correct? If anyone has a para can you tell me if it is tip down also? I have an OLD Endura with the molded plastic clip and it is tip up. I really want a mili or para mili, but I also really hope it was a mistype and they are tip up carry.
 
The mili or para mili are next up on my list to purchase. One question though, KGD mentioned the mili is tip down carry with the clip. Is this correct? If anyone has a para can you tell me if it is tip down also? I have an OLD Endura with the molded plastic clip and it is tip up. I really want a mili or para mili, but I also really hope it was a mistype and they are tip up carry.

No, the Para is also tip-down carry. Sorry to disappoint you, but you can have someone customize it for you.
 
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