First Knife Done-Check it Out!

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Ok guys, seems like I've looked forward to this post for weeks. Here is my finished first knife. This is the linerlock folder I have been building for over a month now. You may have seen some of the previous posts with pictures along the way as I was building it. I have learned alot about making knives through this, and I think I did a pretty good job. But I still wrote down about 20 things I didn't like, or would have done differently. I will use those things I learned in the knives I build in the future.

I also want to hear you guy's opinions on it. I am not afraid of criticism, and I want the good and the bad. Tell me what you really think.

One of the guys here at work told me that I would never be able to make anyone believe that I made it. I thought that was funny. Sure I took it as a compliment, but I just don't see why I wouldn't be able to make people believe it. I had a moment yesterday when I sat back and just looked at this thing, and I could not believe I had actually pulled this off. I wish I had kept up with the hours it took to make this knife, because then I would know how long it took to make it. I drew the design on a piece of paper with a pencil and a ruler and went from there. Every single piece is made, except for the screws, which are small stainless 4-40 size, cut to fit in their locations, and the detent ball, which is a 1/16 440C stainless ball from MSC. I also ordered the teflon material to make the gaskets out of from MSC.

overall length is 7.25", Blade length is 3". Handle is about 9/16 thick. Blade is 1/8" thick.

The materials are as follows:

>Handle scales and spacer: Alminum alloy. They were Anodized satin black by a local company. The pockets for the inserts were cut with a manual mill, and finished up by hand with lots of sandpaper. The inserts are eucalyptus wood, cut from a stabilzed piece from Alpha Knife Supply.

>Liner/pocket clip: .050" thick tempered 410 stainless from Alpha Knife Supply.

>Pivot Bolt and nut, thumb studs, little spacer nuts that go between the handle spacer: All cut from stainless bolts here in the shop. I'm guessing some type of 300 series, cause a magnet will not stick to them.

>Blade: Cru-wear form Crucible Specialty Metals. Heat treated to 58 Rc. I used progressively finer sandpaper to get out the scratches..(most of them lol). I polished it afterwards by hand. The design I came up with for a logo is a half moon with a star inside of it. I etched it on the blade after polishing it. Tape was applied and then I cut the design out with a razor. A felt tip etching marker was then applied to mark it, and the tape removed. it doesn't look as good as I wanted it to; the edges aren't very crisp, but you can tell what it is. Blade metal chemistry is as follows:

Carbon 1.10%
Manganese 0.35%
Silicon 1.10%
Chromium 7.50%
Vanadium 2.40%
Tungsten 1.15%
Molybdenum 1.60%

I had to draw the blade at over 1000 degrees 4 times to get it back down from 62.5-63 Rc.
It did not want to draw, but I finally got it down. I have to say one of the most rewarding experiences was when I finally got the edge on this thing after like 2 hours of sharpening. I'm not too proud to admit it, but I cut myself a total of 5 times so far just from handling it lol, since the edge was achieved yesterday. I cannot believe how sharp this thing is, for some reason I don't feel like my old stainless walmart knife had an edge like this one.

This knife is not for sale, as it is my first knife, and I want to keep it from now on. But I was wondering what you guys might pay for a knife like this. If I were making these knives to sell, and all the wrinkles were ironed out, what would you be willing to pay? Be honest. I know one thing, I won't take less than $300 to even think about starting another one.

I want to also take this opurtunity to thank you guys for the guidance and advice, because I couldn't have don it without yall. I now have a tremendous amount of respect for what all of you do. I thought this would be a challenge, but I never thought it would turn out to be this tough. This really tested my patience, my skill, and my determination to finish it.

The first pic is some of my drawings and templates. The pics after that are the finished knife. The last one has my Leo Damascus beside it as a reference to it's size. Thanks again for looking.

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Looks really, really good. I don't know what I would pay for it truthfuly, considering that I theoretically had enough money to afford $200-$300, I don't think that would be too bad, especially to help support another knifemaker, unfortuneately, as it is I am having a hard time finding the money for an LM Wave :( But anyway, very good looking knife, the only thing that really catches my eye constructive critiscism wise is around some of the screws, there seems to be a bit of roughness of something. Other than that extremely good for a first knife.

~Cody
 
your first knife was a folder? and it looks this good?
Damn! you must ba a machinist!
Nice work!

-Page
 
Since nobody else has any criticism, the one thing I can come up with is to improve the crispness of your grinds.

Other than that, pretty damn nice! Its price, however, would depend on how it smooth/sturdy it was, so I couldn't say. (that, and I'm a cheap SOB, and have never paid more than $150 for a knife!)
 
The action or movement is solid, actually to my suprise. It is very sturdy, and quiet. All that thanks to teflon washers. the lock fits perfect, and by that I mean perfect. Not to brag but it takes a whole lot to impress me, and I impressed myself when I fitted the lock. It took me about 30 minutes with a diamond file, and I must have taken the knife apart about 25 times to file on the liner. It has absolutely no play-back and forth or up and down; I guess I got lucky there. Not that I'm complaining :)

From what I can tell, wood inserts apparently get darker with contact from fingers (I'm guessing the oil on my skin??). The places that look rough on the inside of the screws are where that is natural wood freshly cut, and it hasn't come in contact with my fingers while holding it. That is the reason the parts around the screws stand out so much...
 
That knife sucks! Send it to me for proper disposal!

Seriously, that is a fine job for any knife, but superior for a first knife.
GOOD JOB !
Stacy
 
Very Well done...

As for criticing this piece....You know what is wrong with it better than any of us can see in pictures,Now just fix those on the next one...And keep doing that with each knife you make.

I am going to start a folder and I can only hope to make one look half as good as your first.Great Job.
Bruce
 
Very nice, congratulations!

If you want some feed-back; your logo does look very simular to the Turkish flag.
Not that that is wrong or anything, but just to let you know.
 
Since we are nitpicking, I would suggest the contact point of the clip should move a little on the next one.
It looks as though most of it's contact area is actually touching nothing...


Damned fine job my friend.
 
Good job on your first knife. Put that one up and start a new one, but better. In about two years look back on your first knife and see if you are getting better. Great job ---:thumbup:
 
Awsome job! the one thing that no one has brought up unless I missed it is the liner lock fit. It seems that you have cut a notch for the liner lock to fall into. This will work for the time bieng and initialy may provide a tighter lock up. In the long run though this leaves no room for wear. The blade side of the lock contact is usually angled so that any wear will simply cause the liner to move a little further along the blade side lock surface. Still, it looks like you got a great fit and I'm sure it would take along time to wear down or become a worse fit. Might be something to think about if you start making them for other people. Just nit picking though since you asked for it, thats one hell of a first knife by anyones standards.
 
Good oberservation BigJimSlade. After a second look at the picture itself, the focus is awful. It actually is correct, just like you are describing it should be. I see where you would think it has a notch, but it doesn't. The picture is just so out of focus it makes it look like that. The blade is ground on an angle so that like you say, as it wears, it will just continue up the angle for a tight lock up. I actually didn't know it was angled until I looked at another knife. I would have just made it straight had I not seen another. After seeing the other, I understood how as it wears, the blade just moves up on the angle. Made alot sense all the sudden. Like I said, It took me about thirty minutes with a diamond file to get this perfect. There is no play.

Thanks everyone for the warm replies. It makes me feel like I've done something decent when big time knife makers tell me it looks good!
 
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