First Schatt & Morgan!

knowtracks said:
I believe it was used in the "main blades only" in the 9th series. The rest of the Annual knives have been 420HC. And of course most of the File & Wire knives are ATS-34.
Here is a stockman from the 9th series that I just picked up off the net.
She's 3 3/4" long, 5/8" high & 1/2" thick, closed.

Dave
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I have that stockman also. I thought all the blades were ATS-34. At least that was my understanding when I bought it. :confused:
 
Guyon said:
I have that stockman also. I thought all the blades were ATS-34. At least that was my understanding when I bought it. :confused:
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Current Production: File & Wire, like the one you pictured, are ATS-34, which is hard wearing stuff. Non-File & Wire is mostly 420HC, with a very little smattering of 1095.
 
RobbW said:
Thanks for the information, I didn't know about the 440a. Blech!! On a knife of this quality and price, they should have used something much better.

You can add a fourth steel, 1095, which they occasionally use. I have a Harness Jack in 1095 from S&M that I absolutely love. They, or Queen, do a fantastic job tempering 1095.

For knives of this quality, I'm surprised there isn't more D2, ATS-34 (this is just a small percentage of their offerings), and 1095. I love the action on every S&M I've ever handled, and the F&F is really well done. I look with admiration at their many models, but I won't buy any more of the 420HC--I bought one in a Small English Jack and hated the performance (again, for the price point). I gave it away because it just wouldn't hold an edge even as well as my less expensive knives.
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I also wish Queen would use different steel in their Annual Reproductions. I was just stating what steel they have used. The feeling I get is that the Annual Reproduction Series's are Queen's collectors sets.
Personally I wish Queen would make some smaller patterns in the File & Wire series for users, but really the regular Queen line with D-2 has most popular patterns. I'd bet that 1095 is the least used steel by Queen, in the last 10 years I can only think of a few SFO's produced with it.
Unless things have changed here recently Peters Heat Treat cooks all of Queens different steels. I personally have had good luck with all their steels. Even the 420HC, I carry a Carpenters Whittler from the 15th set in my good jeans & have had good luck with edge retention for a 420 steel.

Dave
 
Guyon said:
I have that stockman also. I thought all the blades were ATS-34. At least that was my understanding when I bought it. :confused:
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My mistake!:grumpy: After further research I found that it was the 10th series that had "Master Blades Only" ATS-34
 
Yes I like to show them off, I guess it comes from going with out a digital camera for so long. Here's the article that got me hooked on cattleknife/stockman patterns from Blade.
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Peter Parker said:
Yes I like to show them off, I guess it comes from going with out a digital camera for so long. Here's the article that got me hooked on cattleknife/stockman patterns from Blade.
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Nice knife! Is there anywhere online where I can read that article?
 
There he goes again :D

I would like to read that too Peter, is it on the internet?
 
One of my favorites too! Partly responsible for my slippie addiction;) BTW does that ole cowpoke have a face full o' character or what?
 
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yobbos1 said:
One of my favorites too! Partly responsible for my slippie addiction;) BTW does that ole cowpoke have a face full o' character or what?
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Yea! He looks like he's been down the road a few times in the Texas heat; he certainly knows traditional knives though!
 
I just ordered my first one today. A two-blade gunstock with amber worm groove handles. Can't wait to get it.
 
Those are all very nice looking knives! I purchased my first S & M yesterday (1/30/09 ) at an estate sale. Not quite as good looking though. I can't find a pattern #, however, given the blades , I would say it's a 4 inch stockman. At some time in it's life the previous owner replaced the original handles,whatever they may have been, with wood ones. Thinking maybe having someone put some decent handles on it for me. The blades , after oiling them , have amazingly good snap in them for a knife this age. Again, really enjoyed looking at those snapshots of your new knives! :thumbup: Dale H.
 
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