Fish Hook Removal 101

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Recent post copied from http://www.atlantakayakfishing.com

Thought this one might be of interest to the survival folks here...

Apalach said:
A recent mishap with a ladyfish hooking one of our members in a finger after he first hooked the ladyfish reminded me of the recent article in GAFF (May-June, 2007) by one of our former Florida State University pre-med students, Paul Hart, MD. Although nearly all such hookings of humans are strictly accidental, Dr. Hart PURPOSELY hooked himself to test a couple of the suggested remedies for hook removal-OUCH! I know, I know, but sometimes you just have to steel yourself to getting past the GAFF chick pics!

1. Here is the first pic that caught my attention (or mebbe it was the 12th, but no matter). This shows Dr. Hart with a self-hooked treble on a plug--more about this one later.

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2. This pic shows Dr. Hart self-inserting two new Gamagatsu J-hooks side by side for a comparison of the “snatch” method with the “push-through” method of hook removal.

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3. Snatch Method-1. The next pic illustrates the use of a short piece of heavy-duty mono around the hook in the “snatch” method. Although I first saw this method published in a scientific paper from Britain about 30 years ago, not many folks even today seem to be familiar with it, or at least have ever tried it. But it does require a fishing buddy to help you out with this method.

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4. Snatch Method-2. WARNING! You also need to be especially careful with the “snatch” method since anyone in the vicinity stands a chance of being hooked even more severely in the face or eye during the extraction procedure.

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5. Push-thru Method-1. You will need two pairs of pliers/side cutters for this method. In the left-hand pic, first grip the shank of the hook with a pair of normal long-nose or other pliers to stabilize it and to keep it from twisting (very painful!). Then in the right-hand pic, you cut off the eye of the hook with your bolt, or side cutters.

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6. Push-thru Method-2. Next comes the hard part—you grip the shank of the hook (or what is left of it), and then roll it up and out thru the skin to form a brand-new opening and expose the barb (also very painful, depending on how much fresh, un-hooked tissue you need to pass through).

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7. Push-thru Method-3. It finally gets a bit easier from here on out. The idea now is to grip the hook with your long-nose pliers just above the exposed barb and then quickly roll or rotate the eye-less hook shank up and out thru your second opening—i.e., your new “exit” wound.

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8. Pain Factor. Dr. Hart also included some interesting graphical info in his article. One of them dealt with the “pain factor” of the two hook removal methods. As you can see here (and as you might expect), the pain associated with the “push-thru” method was considerably greater than the “snatch” method that was still painful, but over a much briefer time frame. In fact, as Dr. Hart pointed out towards the end of his article, there was no doubt about which method he was going to use to remove the embedded treble hook shown in the first pic—the “snatch” method won out hands down!

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9. Finally, jusr for grins, Dr. Hart included another graph comparing the “Entertainment Value” for one’s fishing partners or boatmates of the two methods. Again, as you probably might expect, the EV of the “push-thru” method was considerably greater than that of the “snatch” method. Finally, my cap is off to Dr. Paul Hart, MD for perhaps being the first to so carefully experiment with (and to document!) the two methods of hook removal. Well done!

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10. Mini-Bolt Cutter for Hook Removal
As Dr. Hart points out in the article, it may not be easy to find a pair of wire or side-cutters (1) heavy enough to cut thru say, even a 5/0 hook (or smaller) that I have often used for saltwater fishing, and (2) small enough to carry on a yak. I have tried a variety of sturdy, plier-type tools with wire cutters, but none did the job of cutting thru a 5/0 hook satisfactorily. I finally discovered what I was looking for at Lowe’s about a year ago—a pair of mini bolt cutters, only 8.25 inches long, that would fit nicely into a tackle or gear box, or in a crate, or in a seat-back pocket (where I carry mine). This is the Lowe’s Task Force 8 inch Mini Bolt Cutter for $9.98. My test object was a 5/0 stainless steel O’Shaughnessy hook that was easily sliced and diced by this tool. However, a pair of heavy-duty linesman’s pliers with a side-cutter barely made a dent in it. Of course, the closer you can get the fulcrum point of the bolt cutter to the shaft of the hook, the easier it will be to sever it.

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11. How to avoid being hooked in the first place. Now it should be pointed out that the average fisherman can avoid all (or most all) of the above pain and distress, plus the turmoil and cost of driving oneself (or being driven) to the nearest ER, plus having to submit to surgery, plus having to be stitched up, plus having to undergo several weeks of rehab as a result.

Get out your long nose (or other) pliers before even leaving home and use them to flatten ALL or NEARLY ALL the barbs on your treble hooks. Stock treble hooks seem to be the major source of hooking problems. First they are extremely sharp, second there may be 6 or 9 of the suckers on your average plug, and third, should you really get nailed in the palm of your hand or in a finger by more than one treble hook on a lure, you could be in big trouble out on the water with a long paddle home in front of you. I try to remember to bend down the barbs on all the forward trebles, and 2/3 of the after trebles on my plugs. This will generally permit you to back a hook out the way it entered, assuming the barb is sufficiently flattened (not always easy to do). Course, Murphy’s Law being what it is, I will probably get nailed eventually with that one hook on the after treble that I left intact! Asi es la vida!!

Finally, here is the electronic version of Dr. Hart’s article from GAFF Magazine (May-June, 2007):

http://www.gaffmag.net/live_to_fish_another_day.php?id=127
 
I used the push through method once. I think my adrenaline was running so high that I didn't feel anything. I've also stuck a flytying needle through the eye of a fly and my finger while still stuck on the vise. Same thing, my heart was pumping so hard that I didn't feel anything when I pulled it straight out.

I think these pain factors are person dependent.
 
I'm thinking that any guy who sticks two hooks in his leg on purpose has a fairly high tolerance for pain. :D
 
That guy's NUTS!:D

I've used the push-through method twice on friend that got hooked. Explained the options, pro's and con's of both and they both chose the push-through. If you've never given sutures or tried to remove a hook, it's amazing how tough human skin is!

J-
 
I'm thinking that any guy who sticks two hooks in his leg on purpose has a fairly high tolerance for pain. :D


That I AGREE, I have a fat rap with triple points sitting next to the keyboard right now, it's making me sweat just thinking about sticking one in my leg.
 
I have never been hooked beyond the barb (knock wood). Hope I never am, but if it ever happens, I like the expediency of that snatch method.

I used to fish with a guy who stepped on two hooks on two different outings. He had to push both of them through. Painful to watch.

Also saw a friend's eight-year-old hook him in the back with a crappie jig. That one buried up nicely. He had to tug it out with pliers. Took a nice little chunk out. :eek:
 
This guy is one crazy son of a gun. I betcha he was an Army Ranger. Rangers are prone to do stuff like this almost for fun. I was with a bunch of 'em at Benning....Jeez.:confused:
 
"I'm bear Grylls, I've drank my own urine, and squeezed elephant dung for water, and now, I'm gonna show you how to remove a fish-hook from your bumm!" ;) ;)

I've used the Push-through method, also used the "Suck it up until we get back to the marina and can get to the emergency room" method.
Having a cooler full of ice makes the pain bearable.
Ice it down for 10 or 15 solid minutes, then dig it out.

Also have seen someone pull tension until they have the barb pushing toward the outside, then they made a slice for barb to come out. (Winces in pain).
:eek:
When all else fails, bite down on a shoe. :foot:

I wanna see that dude do the same thing with one right in the middle of his thumb, or the meat of his hand.
 
When I was in the Boy Scouts one kid got hooked. The Dr. did the pull method, and the kid was back in camp in a couple of hours. He said it didn't hurt at all.
 
I'm embarrassed to admit that I can't figure out the physics of the snatch method -- is the idea that the fishing line pulls on the "J bend" part of the hook while the "patient" (victim?) stretches out the flesh with his hands?
 
I think you're supposed to push down on eye of the hook into your arm, then pull on the bend with the line. I read this in some old bassmaster mag before.
 
But you need really thick mono which I never have around. Do you guys know if a thicker superline would work?

I have done it with 550 cord, the bigger the line that will fit the hook the better, believe me you want it to come out in one jerk.

I'm embarrassed to admit that I can't figure out the physics of the snatch method -- is the idea that the fishing line pulls on the "J bend" part of the hook while the "patient" (victim?) stretches out the flesh with his hands?

The way it works is that when you push down on the eye and jerk the string in the bend of the hook it forces the barb to travel the same path as it did going in. I real life I am not sure your not just yanking the damn thing out, but it is like taking a bandaid off, it is better to get it over quick IMO. Chris
 
I actually had the "snatch" method used on me when I was a kid. Stepped on a (non-treble) hook; parents took me in to the nearest little mountain-town medical center. I had mental images of multiple doctors looking at my hook-bedecked foot, shaking their heads--and I dreaded the "push-through" method which I'd seen in the Boy Scout literature. No such problem. The area is one of the better trout-fishing ones in the state, and the doc took one look, then reached up to a piece of what I think was just white cotton string hanging on a nail on the side of a cabinet--in fact, the words "fishhook remover" were written, I think on a couple of pieces of tape, on the cabinet under the nail. Doc looped it under the hook, pressed down the eye against my skin, gave a quick, startling, and unbelievably painless tug, and the hook was out. Instant gratification. In my humble opinion, it's a technique everybody who ever intends to get near a fishhook (or has kids who do anything outdoorsy) should know.
 
One other thought: if you're pushing it through, you're making a new hole probably 1 1/2 times as long as the original, and equally wide. In short, you're disrupting relatively a large amount of flesh. By contrast, if you're pulling it out, even if the downward pressure doesn't disengage the barb at all (and, in practice, I'll tell you that at least sometimes it does), you're probably just kind of enlarging the existing hole, which I think would have to translate into less tissue getting torn/cut/whatever. Also, even in the worst case, I'd think the barb might kind of "clog" up with whatever meat it was pulling out of you.
 
People go to the doctors for fish hooks? Every time I've hooked myself, I just yank it out the same way it went in, and then keep on fishing. It's not a big deal, really.
 
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