Fish Hooks...Too Cruel ???

[pitdog]

Now I know why I don't frequent this forum. Joe is right, and the rest of you douchebags probably don't know jack about "survival".

Me, I spent a great deal of time in the Adirondack mountains as a youth without food or water, hiking on very rough trails(if you could call them that), with basic "survival" gear, knife, maps, compass, ziploc bag, canteen, and a Scout guide, and somehow, I didn't have to trap with fishooks, and I ate greens, fish and found water, without having to torture animals to death to prove that I was "survival ready".

This thread is an embarrassment to the entire knife community.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson

Hahahaha......is this for real ?

 

[Troy H]

Don't cross the line with name calling, guys. Keep the discussion pertinent to the topic, not each other.

 

[pitdog]

G'day Pit



Screw the noose.

A great way to trap feral pigs is to set an apple with a strong hook, anchored with a wire to a long metal stake.

When they feel the hook bite, they'll sit and be waiting for you when you check your "traps".

Just make sure you take a firearm with you that will finish them off with one shot, or if your feeling game enough, a knife with a blade that is long enough to reach the vitals with one thrust.



Kind regards
Mick

Hey Mick,

That kinda reminds me of the bird trap where you have a length of fishing line with raisins etc threaded along it's length and one end staked to the floor. Apparently the birds eats the raisins swallowing the line in the process and by the time it gets to the end it's too late, you have him !

 

[Esav Benyamin]

This is not Prac Tac, which would also benefit from a bit more personal courtesy, and members who don't spend much time here don't get to characterize those who do as yahoos or douchebags. We have many regulars who are very comfortable outdoors, and newbies who are learning. Insults will only isolate you, they will not convince anyone of your wisdom.

 

[Karda]

Guys I m an avid hunter and fisherman and have spent extensive time in the bush from Africa to Asia and all over the North. As a kid my family ran trap lines for money and I spent my youth working them I don't trap any more and have no problems with those who do

My concern with a thread like this is that every time I take a look in this part of he forum there is someone who parks His car walks 50 yards to a designated camp spot and practices his survival skills which is great if that's your thing

Sure in a true survival situation you use what you have to but my concern is that there are a lot of idiots on here that

Will be snaring there neighbors cat with treble hooks on a noose so they can try out these theories. Animals wheRe not put here so yahoos can test there survival skills by maiming and torchering them

So say what ya want like I said most of you have never been of the trail head and this forum has become as bad as prac tac

Now I know why I don't frequent this forum. Joe is right, and the rest of you douchebags probably don't know jack about "survival".

Me, I spent a great deal of time in the Adirondack mountains as a youth without food or water, hiking on very rough trails(if you could call them that), with basic "survival" gear, knife, maps, compass, ziploc bag, canteen, and a Scout guide, and somehow, I didn't have to trap with fishooks, and I ate greens, fish and found water, without having to torture animals to death to prove that I was "survival ready".

This thread is an embarrassment to the entire knife community.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson

These Statements are way off the reservation. The condescending attitude from you both is probably why the custom forum has an unusually high ratio of people with with such attitudes. There are "other" people in this world who are all that and a bag of chips, also.
I don't agree with the use of fish hooks for trapping, there are better ways. For use in true survival situation though, i would have no problem using one if it meant i would be able to feed myself.

 

[DrivebyTrucker]

I think treble hooks would up your success rate, IDK about single shanks. In a legitimate survival situation of course.

Maybe they would, but whether it's enough to justify carrying fewer treble hooks in a small shell case vs carrying many single shanks for the same for volume and weight is something to consider. Treble hooks may spook em from your snare.

 

[stabman]

Now I know why I don't frequent this forum. Joe is right, and the rest of you douchebags probably don't know jack about "survival".

Not a very friendly way of interacting with people there, ya know.

 

[Chuka]

I think it's pretty lame to have to censor a legitimate discussion on survival/traps just because some ill-mannered child/reject with no morals MIGHT read this and get an idea. Give me a break. The responsibility lies with that person, not people that have sensible discussions about methods of trapping. If there is a person cruel enough to noose and hook cats, a forum post on BF isn't going to put them over the edge to become the nations next serial cat murderer. They've already got issues to begin with. THEY are the irresponsible ones. I would return the question to Jparanee and ask, "what's wrong with you?".

 

[Kohai999]

Not a very friendly way of interacting with people there, ya know.

The OP basically is advocating torturing an animal to death with a barbed hook laden snare, or at least wondering if it goes too far. It is a mind-boggling discussion, that it even came up....I stand by my words.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson

 

[pitdog]

For the regulars on here please don't rise to the remarks made by these trolls or the thread will be locked or moved.


Drivebytrucker....I hear ya buddy and understand trebles would take up valuable space in a PSK tin but they wouldn't take up too much in a waistpack or backpack, maybe I'll consider throwing in a couple.

 

[Karda]

The OP basically is advocating torturing an animal to death with a barbed hook laden snare, or at least wondering if it goes too far. It is a mind-boggling discussion, that it even came up....I stand by my words.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson

The rest of us find it a legitimate question. Is a fig.4 trap with a suspended rock any less cruel? Is using hooks to fish any less cruel?
I think you will find most of us here will only advocate it's use for trapping when absolutely necessary for survival, and not find it cruel if it means food.
Perhaps you both need to work on your interpersonal skills before entering discussions in other parts of the forum.

 

[Kohai999]

The rest of us find it a legitimate question. Is a fig.4 trap with a suspended rock any less cruel? Is using hooks to fish any less cruel?
I think you will find most of us here will only advocate it's use for trapping when absolutely necessary for survival, and not find it cruel if it means food.
Perhaps you both need to work on your interpersonal skills before entering discussions in other parts of the forum.

Is getting crushed to death(probably quickly) more humane than being held down by barbs until you choke to death? Most likely.

Man, I have been here way longer, chances are on the planet longer, and have but a relatively small ratio of serious problems with fellow forumites, outside of my area of primary focus.

I suffer fools poorly...plain and simple, and am done with this shameful slice of Forum presence. You ladies carry on smartly!

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson

 

[Karda]

Is getting crushed to death(probably quickly) more humane than being held down by barbs until you choke to death? Most likely.

Man, I have been here way longer, chances are on the planet longer, and have but a relatively small ratio of serious problems with fellow forumites, outside of my area of primary focus.

I suffer fools poorly...plain and simple, and am done with this shameful slice of Forum presence. You ladies carry on smartly!

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson

Here we go, with the condescending attitude and insults again from you , Stevie.
You can go back to your forum if you can't handle a mature discussion. Or handle a discussion where your backside isnt being kissed. Your presence is not needed or wanted here.
Chances are that i've been on the planet longer than you, but that really doesnt add anything to this conversation now, does it?

 

[kgd]

Ah well, its always good to be reminded that I am a douchebag once in awhile. Takes me down a notch

 

[stabman]

Ah well, its always good to be reminded that I am a douchebag once in awhile. Takes me down a notch

Is it worse to be a douchebag or a douchenozzle?
That is the pressing W&SS question of the day.

 

[TheGame]

Well, that wasn't very.. friendly. Oh well.

In a life or death situation where a hook may up my chances of getting food, I would definitely do it if I had hooks to use. If I was just out for an overnighter and knew where I was, there is no way I'd use hooks just to see if it would work better. I am told rather often from my father, that "You do what you have to do to survive" .. which his dad always told him. I will likely say the same to my children someday. If it came down to it, I would do whatever I had to, if it meant I was going to stay alive.

 

[JParanee]

I have also heard that if you douse a cat in gasoline it will burn for about 12 to 15 minutes

If I have three cats with me and I am in a survival situation what is the. Best way to burn them to get the most heat out of them and then be able to eat them with out the yuck
Yucky gas taste ?

How's that guys for a legate question

I'm sorry guys but I got but I got turned of on your survival thread when I read the one post on how you can long line a hog and he will just sit there gut hooked like a dog

Really great stuff from one he'll of a sportsman. Now before ya jump all over me I know hogs are a real problem and they have to be irradiated in some places but. By that statement alone I can see some of you boys like to play bad games with animals and for that I have no respect

Btw I have hog dogs and I have hunted them with knife, bow and gun but have never tried long line maybe I can practice on my neighbors dog Cause as all of you well versed trappers know when ya set a trap ya really never know what Your gonna get

Sorry to interrupt I ll let you boys get back to the planning on the end of the world and how your gonna survive

 

[Karda]

I have also heard that if you douse a cat in gasoline it will burn for about 12 to 15 minutes

If I have three cats with me and I am in a survival situation what is the. Best way to burn them to get the most heat out of them and then be able to eat them with out the yuck
Yucky gas taste ?

How's that guys for a legate question

I'm sorry guys but I got but I got turned of on your survival thread when I read the one post on how you can long line a hog and he will just sit there gut hooked like a dog

Really great stuff from one he'll of a sportsman. Now before ya jump all over me I know hogs are a real problem and they have to be irradiated in some places but. By that statement alone I can see some of you boys like to play bad games with animals and for that I have no respect

Btw I have hog dogs and I have hunted them with knife, bow and gun but have never tried long line maybe I can practice on my neighbors dog Cause as all of you well versed trappers know when ya set a trap ya really never know what Your gonna get

Sorry to interrupt I ll let you boys get back to the planning on the end of the world and how your gonna survive

Joe, You really need to stop with the Trolling, M'kay?

 

[stabman]

Really great stuff from one he'll of a sportsman. Now before ya jump all over me I know hogs are a real problem and they have to be irradiated in some places

OMG, you'd use atomics on hogs?
And you call yourself a sportsman.

 

[Kohai999]

I have also heard that if you douse a cat in gasoline it will burn for about 12 to 15 minutes.

If I have three cats with me and I am in a survival situation what is the best way to burn them to get the most heat out of them and then be able to eat them with out the yuck-yucky gas taste?

How's that guys, is that a legitimate question?

I'm sorry guys, but I got but I got turned off on your "survival thread" when I read the one post on how you can long-line a hog and he will just sit there gut hooked like a dog.

Really great stuff from one hell of a sportsman. Now before ya jump all over me I know hogs are a real problem and they have to be irradiated in some places but, by that statement alone I can see some of you boys like to play bad games with animals, and for that I have no respect.

Btw I have hog dogs and I have hunted hogs with knife, bow and gun but have never tried long-line maybe I can practice on my neighbors dog. Because as all of you well-versed trappers know when you set a trap you really never know what you are gonna get.

Sorry to interrupt, I'll let you boys get back to the planning on the end of the world and how your gonna survive

Fixed Joe's post. He types these on his smart phone, and it doesn't always correct punctuation and grammar.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson