Fiskars Puukko

Originally posted by liten
the knives with the black plastic handle marked "Falcon", are mora knives made by the company KJ Eriksson. To my knowledge Normark doesn't make any knives themselves, but sell knives under their brand name but manufaktured by other companies.
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Bjorn/liten,

Thank you VERY much for that information - this has answered my question for over 20 years about that knife.

I really liked that Falcon for it's wonderful shape - blade, handle, function and even the sheath - but was never quite sure who made it.

Now I know - what other knives are made by KJ Eriksson?

I noticed you called it a "Mora" knife -
is that a particular style/shape of knife, and what distiguishes it from a puukko type knife ?
or is it just the place made?

Thanks,
 
UnknownVT, mora knives, are named after the place where they are made here in Sweden. Or well, actually the knife companies are located in a small village just outside of the town of Mora. Both KJ Eriksson and Frosts make mora knives. They both make a wide array of knives, and not all are called mora knives. I'd say it is the blade shape that makes a knife a mora. All mora knives have pretty similar styled blades. The handles can vary a bit. One common model is the one with a simple red painted wood handle, others have plastic handles as yours and there are ones with plastic handles with a layer of rubber to make them more grippy.

The knives are cheap but of very good quality for their price.

You can find the respective webpages of the two companies at:

http://www.frosts.se
http://www.kjeriksson.se

Unfortunatly the KJ Eriksson site is only available in swedish it seems, but Ragweedforge has some Eriksson knives you can look at.

Http://www.ragweedforge.com/SwedishKnifeCatalog.html

I am sure you can get a lot of information about mora knives by doing a search on this forum too.

/Bjorn
 
Originally posted by liten
mora knives, are named after the place where they are made here in Sweden.
<snip> I'd say it is the blade shape that makes a knife a mora. All mora knives have pretty similar styled blades. The handles can vary a bit. One common model is the one with a simple red painted wood handle, others have plastic handles as yours and there are ones with plastic handles with a layer of rubber to make them more grippy.
<snip>Ragweedforge has some Eriksson knives you can look at.
Http://www.ragweedforge.com/SwedishKnifeCatalog.html
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Bjorn,

Thank you again for your patient explanation.

I also found the Ragweed site when doing some minimal net research - after seeing that site and the "typical" simple red wood handles I can now recall reading about Mora knives and had always associated that simple shaped handle with Mora knives.
This is the small image on the Ragweed page:
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Aren't Mora knives also famous for using sandwiched or laminated steels?

Not that there is any doubt my Falcon knife is made in Mora, Sweden - nor that the blade shape is different
- but for some reason I always associated that Falcon as a sort of "modern" puukko - perhaps it was the handle shape which looked closer to a typical puukko with that contoured butt
- or maybe because it was sold/marketed by Normark - a Finnish company - that the knife was perhaps styled closer to a puukko?

Thanks,
 
Vincent, Only Frosts make some mora knives with laminated blades, mostly in their whittling knives, and the wood handled versions. KJ Eriksson doesn't have a single model with laminated blades.

Even though Normark has some knife designs of their own that is only sold under the name of Normark, your falcon is not one of those normark designs. That model is perhaps the most common of KJ Eriksson's plastic handled moras. There is also a version that looks exactly like it but with a plastic guard added.

It is not to strange though to find similarities in designs between a knife from Finland, and one from Sweden. After all Sweden and Finland are right next to eachother geograpically and at times Finland has been a part of Sweden. The puukko style of knife is far from a Finland only thing. Similar designs can be found on knives both in Sweden and Norway.

/Bjorn
 
Originally posted by liten
Even though Normark has some knife designs of their own that is only sold under the name of Normark, your falcon is not one of those normark designs. That model is perhaps the most common of KJ Eriksson's plastic handled moras. There is also a version that looks exactly like it but with a plastic guard added.

It is not to strange though to find similarities in designs between a knife from Finland, and one from Sweden. After all Sweden and Finland are right next to eachother geograpically and at times Finland has been a part of Sweden. The puukko style of knife is far from a Finland only thing. Similar designs can be found on knives both in Sweden and Norway.
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Bjorn,

Once again thanks for the clarification and explanation here's a
Swedish Army Knife:
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http://www.ghfactory.com/knives.htm
(5th knife down, or second item from bottom)

That blade shape and handle looks very similar to that Falcon knife - with a plastic hand guard.

Here's another advertized as a
Swedish Mil Mora Knife:
72341_ts.JPG

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?p=WX2&i=72341
 
Vincent, Yes that swedish army knife in your picture is indeed the version of your knife that has a guard. It is also available with a red plastic handle.
The other knife you showed that is also advertised as a swedish mil knife, is just that too. I've seen both versions issued. When I did my military service I was issued one of the moras with a red painted wood handle. So even tho there are a few mora models available with green handles and marketed as army knives, the swedish army isn't as picky. I know people who has been issued different kinds of mora models, and far from all were the army versions.

/Bjorn
 
Originally posted by liten
Vincent, Yes that swedish army knife in your picture is indeed the version of your knife that has a guard. It is also available with a red plastic handle.
<snip> the swedish army isn't as picky. I know people who has been issued different kinds of mora models, and far from all were the army versions.
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Bjorn,

Great conversation and great information thank you.

OK here's a twist to my "story" - I thought I liked Puukkos, and bought that Fiskars Puukko shown on my opening post -
actually BECAUSE I liked that KJ Eriksson Falcon knife so much -
and thought for years it was a "Puukko"! :o :eek:

Oh, well my mistake and ignorance still got me going in the right direction anyway :)

OK here's another "Scandinavian" knife -
what type of knife is it - Puukko, Mora or something else?
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Might this be a hint?
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Thanks - I'm really enjoying this thread,
 
Vincent, I was thinking a bit and came to the conclusion that I am sure you can call your Falcon a puukko. Can't see why it can't be a mora knife and a puukko at the same time. A mora puukko if you please.

As for the Kellam knife, I am sorry to say that I don't know much about it. I think it is made in Finland, and if so it should be a good no-nonsense knife. Made to cut and doing it well.

/Bjorn
 
Originally posted by liten
A mora puukko if you please.
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Bjorn,

I like that.....

The trouble is if anyone else read that in isolation would (mistakenly) say you didn't know what you were talking about:p :p

Whereas following this thread you were in fact that one to clear up the confusion that I had.

I think "Scandinavian style" would be a fairly safe term to use.
Mora - I think has to be from Mora, Sweden - since it is a place name.
Puukko - probably similarly has to be from Finland, being a Finnish word - although I guess it would be relatively safe to say "puukko style" - for a knife that looks like a puukko but not from Finland.

However the problem is exactly as you said there are many Scandinavian knives that do look similar since there are bound to be some cross-influences from neighboring communities.

I did like your kind compromise - but
I think I prefer the distinction better - even if it were slight.:)
(and I have to admit I was mistaken :o )

Thank you again for your valuable contribution.
 
I had a Normark given to me that is makes n-corp 1967. It has been scratched up pretty bad. Any idea on the best way to restore finish?
 
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