ChazzyP
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+1 and :thumbup: to that, though I tend to put "perfect" in quotes. If one expects perfection, disappointment is inevitable. I like tweaking my knives and making them my own.
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+1 and :thumbup: to that, though I tend to put "perfect" in quotes. If one expects perfection, disappointment is inevitable. I like tweaking my knives and making them my own.
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I usually fix my own issues as well. Not when they are this bad and I just paid 250.00 though. If you tried to fix the grind you would run out of blade on this one. The pictures do not show how bad it really is.
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Calling them is the best way to go and once you're in their system give an advantage for quicker updates on the knife (work) in process. And they are good people!
I own about 10 Benchmades. I never really analyze them too much, toss them in the pocket and go.
I will say the most expensive is the 940-2 which I took a seriously look at when it arrived. The pocket clip side scale has some odd scratches to it and the blade isn't centered. Weird how I never paid any attention to any of this till I spent almost 200 dollars.
All of my lower priced Benchmades are nearly perfect.
I will say the most expensive is the 940-2 which I took a seriously look at when it arrived. The pocket clip side scale has some odd scratches to it and the blade isn't centered. Weird how I never paid any attention to any of this till I spent almost 200 dollars.
All of my lower priced Benchmades are nearly perfect.
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I had a 940-1 with terrible edge grind and the lasermarks were soo thick that i couldnt make out if it said S90V. I dont understand if its laser inscribed why is there a different thickness on the font? But being BM sent them an email and they responded very quickly as well as replace the entire knife and grind and all was flawless. If it wasnt for their superb warranty service i would have been super pissed and prob never buy again but they know how to satisfy their clients
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ChazzyP
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I get that, FD. I didn't mean to imply you should just accept something that's essentially unfixable. Mine was just a generalized description of my own experience. YMMV.
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No worries. I appreciate all the responses.
When you're talking about thousands and thousands of knives churned out every year, thousands will be perfect and a smaller number will have flaws. It's not surprising to hear many people say they've owned 100 Benchmades and they've all been perfect, and others say they've owned 10 and they've all been flawed. It's the law of large numbers and the way large scale production of precision items works. Could be that some machining process was slightly miscalibrated for a period of time or the specs of a certain model, so only certain runs of certain models were affected. The problem is the ratio of within spec to out of spec that are making it into customers' hands.
The question isn't whether Benchmade is capable of producing a knife with perfect fit and finish. Every knife company is capable of that, every knife company is using essentially the same manufacturing processes and materials and so the machines will always turn out quite a few within acceptable variance. The question is how tight are the tolerances dialed in? How many are not making it through QC? And so IMO the problem with Benchmade is either that their tolerances are too low and/or that their QC process is not up to spec. They are letting a lot of knives come out that should have been failed and gone into the scrap heap.
The question isn't whether Benchmade is capable of producing a knife with perfect fit and finish. Every knife company is capable of that, every knife company is using essentially the same manufacturing processes and materials and so the machines will always turn out quite a few within acceptable variance. The question is how tight are the tolerances dialed in? How many are not making it through QC? And so IMO the problem with Benchmade is either that their tolerances are too low and/or that their QC process is not up to spec. They are letting a lot of knives come out that should have been failed and gone into the scrap heap.
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^problem with that is, fanboys and people who don't know what to look for and people who could care less, won't claim any f&f issues. im not saying that those who are claiming otherwise in this thread are lying, but its possible these may be reasons why, or possibly they got good ones, but its unlikely they got no f&f issues, but thats just in my opinion, based on those reasons. certainly every manufactures has issues, its just that benchmade has alot more issues than any others manufacture and its been proven time and time again.
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The last three Benchmades I bought had some kind of QC issues. I emailed the company this morning to let them know about it, now I am waiting to hear back from them. My new Stryker and Griptilian arrived yesterday. The blade on the Stryker has back and forth blade play. The Griptilian blade is badly off centered and should have never left the factory, it's almost rubbing the inside of the handle. I bought a new G10 Barrage about a month ago, and it has slight back and forth blade play as well. Considering the price of their knives, QC should be much stricter than this.
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Funny, I found this thread as I was going to post a question regarding a 940-1 I just picked up. The scale screws protrude past the liners. I find this to be annoying on a knife at this price point. I have many Spydercos and ZT's and this has never been an issue. Is this normal for Benchmade?
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Funny, I found this thread as I was going to post a question regarding a 940-1 I just picked up. The scale screws protrude past the liners. I find this to be annoying on a knife at this price point. I have many Spydercos and ZT's and this has never been an issue. Is this normal for Benchmade?
this is how the factory does it, Its not fit and finish. I agree with you that it seems out of the ordinary they do that. but if it were too short and the screws got loose it could fall apart, where as with the extra room you would catch it and tighten it before that happened. I sound like I'm joking it could be taken either way.
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biggest issues ive run into with benchmades is loose screws, not assembled properly and terrible blade grinds. some of the worst on production knives consistently. chinese makers even put benchmade to shame.
i know folks will say mine came the sharpest ever etc etc, but ive bought enough and their angles are consistently terrible not even close to 30 inclusive.
other than those two things i think their fit and finish is pretty good overall. folks like to nipick to death not important cosmetic at best things but then again at benchmades map pricing insanity i guess they have that right.
i know folks will say mine came the sharpest ever etc etc, but ive bought enough and their angles are consistently terrible not even close to 30 inclusive.
other than those two things i think their fit and finish is pretty good overall. folks like to nipick to death not important cosmetic at best things but then again at benchmades map pricing insanity i guess they have that right.
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My Griptilian blade centering was worse than that , it,s about to take a trip to Oregon for some fine tuning. I tried to center it myself, but it wouldn't hardly move at all when I adjusted the pivot screw, so I will just ship it to them instead. I recently shipped my Stryker to the factory for vertical blade play, it should be back in the next couple weeks.
I must admit that for example my 908 out of the box wasn't great - offcentered with side to side bp. But after some adjusting with torx it's cool. No side to side bp, I can flick it open, blade is centered.
I think if you are pedant and want smooth and perfect action in BM, you must personally pick one in local store or be confident to adjust it at home by yourself.
I think if you are pedant and want smooth and perfect action in BM, you must personally pick one in local store or be confident to adjust it at home by yourself.