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the rat 3 falls into that category. good knife with a serviceable sheath. it'll be mentioned here i'm sure but a knife for sd isn't a real good idea. it's sometimes hard to tell the winner in a knife fight.
that being said bark river makes some real nice knives. you might also consider a folder like a spyderco for ease of concealment. good luck.
that being said bark river makes some real nice knives. you might also consider a folder like a spyderco for ease of concealment. good luck.
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Chris, without training, carrying a knife for SD is a really really bad idea.
If you have had or are taking training, ask your sensei for advice on a knife that will fit in with what he is teaching you.
If you have had or are taking training, ask your sensei for advice on a knife that will fit in with what he is teaching you.
Since the rat-3 is already mentioned, I'll recommend the rc-3 (from the same designers). http://www.ratcutlery.com/rc-3.htm
I should also add that it cant be double edge. IDK where you guys live but I dont think thats legal anywhere in NYS. But definately not my town. I already have a Spyderco Endura but its illegal in my city. Bummer too because I just got it a few weeks ago and fell in love with it. I have purchased some dvd's/books on knife training. Im in the process of finding a trainer but its hard to come by with knife fighting. And if they do offer it you have to be a black belt first. If you wouldnt suggest a knife for SD then what else. I cant CCW yet because im 19. I carry a can of OC but it dont feel like its enough. And im moving into a not so great part of town, not by choice.
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If it's for SD mainly, then something like the Large Ka-Bar TDI knife may be what you're looking for. Quite intuitive to use. On the other hand, in SD knives, you may want to consider the looks of the knife: if you end up using the knife, it's not going to look good in court if the knife is a blazing tacticool, riddled with mean-looking serrations and questionable slogans etched on the blade.
This is more a topic for practical tactical, but I wouldn't consider carrying a knife for SD without training a "really bad idea", unlike some other members. Training is great to have for any tool, but most people who have in fact killed someone with a knife did not have training for it. At least that is the case in my country. A knife is a very simple tool, and makes an equally simple weapon, that people have been using throughout history. Better to have a knife and no training with it, than to have empty hands and no training with them. Of course, it's much better than either of these options to have training with whatever you're going to be using, be that empty hand techniques or something that you have to painfully slowly draw out before using it.
Now, saying something like this out loud often invites the "if you have a knife and no training, they'll just take it from you and use it against you" argument. Quite frankly, that's one of the most BS arguments I've ever heard (and you hear a lot of BS in this country). First of all, if your opponent is so good that he'll just routinely disarm you just like that, then it doesn't matter what you bring or do not bring, you're going to get beaten anyway. If he takes your knife, so what? He probably already had a knife if he attacked you, possibly a firearm. The chance that he had no weapon at all is minimal indeed. So, how have you made the situation worse in terms of weaponry? Sure, you lost your weapon, but then, he already had one to begin with, almost certainly. Yes, it's true that drawing a weapon to defend yourself with may infuriate the bad guy even further. But guess what. Unless you can see the future, you don't know that. Maybe he'll get second thoughts and run instead, noticing that you're armed and not the easiest possible target - that happens very frequently in this country. Or let's assume that you don't draw the knife, and just curl up to a ball and surrender. How do you know that won't infuriate him too? Maybe he'll think of you as a worthless dhimmi that doesn't even have the courage to defend himself, and maybe he'll just kick your skull in while you lie there on the ground, not fighting? The fact is, you won't know until it happens.
But I digress, so I'll end my rant there.
This is more a topic for practical tactical, but I wouldn't consider carrying a knife for SD without training a "really bad idea", unlike some other members. Training is great to have for any tool, but most people who have in fact killed someone with a knife did not have training for it. At least that is the case in my country. A knife is a very simple tool, and makes an equally simple weapon, that people have been using throughout history. Better to have a knife and no training with it, than to have empty hands and no training with them. Of course, it's much better than either of these options to have training with whatever you're going to be using, be that empty hand techniques or something that you have to painfully slowly draw out before using it.
Now, saying something like this out loud often invites the "if you have a knife and no training, they'll just take it from you and use it against you" argument. Quite frankly, that's one of the most BS arguments I've ever heard (and you hear a lot of BS in this country). First of all, if your opponent is so good that he'll just routinely disarm you just like that, then it doesn't matter what you bring or do not bring, you're going to get beaten anyway. If he takes your knife, so what? He probably already had a knife if he attacked you, possibly a firearm. The chance that he had no weapon at all is minimal indeed. So, how have you made the situation worse in terms of weaponry? Sure, you lost your weapon, but then, he already had one to begin with, almost certainly. Yes, it's true that drawing a weapon to defend yourself with may infuriate the bad guy even further. But guess what. Unless you can see the future, you don't know that. Maybe he'll get second thoughts and run instead, noticing that you're armed and not the easiest possible target - that happens very frequently in this country. Or let's assume that you don't draw the knife, and just curl up to a ball and surrender. How do you know that won't infuriate him too? Maybe he'll think of you as a worthless dhimmi that doesn't even have the courage to defend himself, and maybe he'll just kick your skull in while you lie there on the ground, not fighting? The fact is, you won't know until it happens.
But I digress, so I'll end my rant there.
ChrisAHF, one suggestion would be to stay away from situations were there may be trouble. That's a good idea even if your packing. If you seriously think you may be attacked at a particular place, stay away from that palce.
If you can carry a single edged, fixed blade knife, there are many inexpensive ones around. You can likely find some modest sized kitchen knives at a local grocery store. You would need to make a sheath.
Check with local gun ranges about classes in edged weapon training. They aren't cheap and after a class or two you still won't be a "ginsu master" but you will have a much better idea about knives as weapons and something about dealing with different situations. It may well help you recognize things you can do to avoid being attacked.
You really want to stay away from getting in a knife fight. That doesn't mean not to carry what you can legally, but chances are both people in a knife fight will get cut or stabbed. If stabbed in the wrong place you can bleed out pretty fast.
If you can carry a single edged, fixed blade knife, there are many inexpensive ones around. You can likely find some modest sized kitchen knives at a local grocery store. You would need to make a sheath.
Check with local gun ranges about classes in edged weapon training. They aren't cheap and after a class or two you still won't be a "ginsu master" but you will have a much better idea about knives as weapons and something about dealing with different situations. It may well help you recognize things you can do to avoid being attacked.
You really want to stay away from getting in a knife fight. That doesn't mean not to carry what you can legally, but chances are both people in a knife fight will get cut or stabbed. If stabbed in the wrong place you can bleed out pretty fast.
I always avoid bad situations. I dont go to bars, I dont hang around last at night, and am always aware of my surroundings. So far in my life I cant think of one situation where I would have had to pull a knife. Im pretty good at avoiding trouble. That doesnt mean my streak will last forever. I would never get into a knife fight if I knew the other person also had one, like most of you said its hard to tell who won. If someone pulled a knife on me, my life is worth more than 27 dollars and 32 cents. But it might not always go that smooth.