Fixed Buck Age? Model?

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argonstrom

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What else can you tell me? Obviously, this guy has seen some pretty rough work & the sheath is, well... interesting (I swear I had a belt like that as a kid :) ). I was told it was "Vietnam-era" for what it's worth.

Thanks in advance! :D

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I think it is pre 1972 and looks like a 119... not knowing how long it is.... The blade that is... :thumbup:
 
That is one of 440C blades, you can tell from the grind. The other fellas gave you more info on the year than I can.
 
You can send that knife to Leroy R for a make over and it will come back looking almost new.... ITE

Have a look at mine... Before and after pics....
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Argonstrom, welcome to the Buck Forum... Nice pics and a nice used Buck 119.... ITE ... :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
 
knarfeng said:
That is one of 440C blades, you can tell from the grind. The other fellas gave you more info on the year than I can.
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I had / have no idea how to tell the type of metal from the grind - mind pointing me to a good site or book? :thumbup:
 
This IS the site.

I don't know anything about telling steel from the grind. The older knives just have different contours and seeing that, we know they are old. The 440C was used through 1980, at which time they went to 425M steel......and that timing means your knife was, of course, 440C steel.

If you use the search here and copy and paste information to your computer......you will soon have better information on Bucks than any book I know of (at least until Joe Houser and maybe 110 Dave write the definitive book on Bucks.

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Argon, Welcome . Your 119 has a 440C blade from 1968-71 the 67 knives were stamped Buck* and in 1972 Buck began stamping them Buck 119 USA . A early model Buck and when cleaned/polished up is a treasure worth the investment . Wish you had a decent sheath . Hope this helps . DM
 
Are you sure, Dave? :)

Actually, my notes show me that the two-line Buck stamp was used from 67 to 72. Often, of course, one stamp will be used for part of the year and another for the rest of the year, but my notes show two-liners starting in 67.

Maybe we have dueling notes again, but mine originated with Joe H. a while back.

So, it seems we can narrow the time down with some precision, amazingly enough, to 67, 68 or 69.

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Looks like the spacers are of bone fiber and this would put in it the 1967 to late 1969 vintage as I said earlier in the thread. The change to micarta came in 1970.
 
BG, I very much agree with you on your assement of the bone hard fiber spacers which is the telling clue . Now, when moving to the other stampings, ie. Buck* and the inverted 3 liners it comes down to where does one draw the line ? SO, THE 1967 stampings had two versions and the 1972 had three ? That would have to be your position . Whereas, mine rests on a different location . Whose correct ? I'm not going to go there with you as we've dicussed this on other ocassions, with different models, yeilding similiar results . I don't think even Buck can pin point this any closer . It comes down to how you interpret long term Buck history . DM
 
SO, THE 1967 stampings had two versions and the 1972 had three ? That would have to be your position .
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Yes, that seems far more likely than your position that the 1967 knives had only one stamping (Buck*).

I say this because I've never heard of a single case where the stamp was changed exactly on January 1 of a given year and changed again exactly on January 1 of the following year.

It's just logic.

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BG42EDGE said:
Yes, that seems far more likely than your position that the 1967 knives had only one stamping (Buck*).

For all we know they could have had three different stampings in 67 not one or just two .


I say this because I've never heard of a single case where the stamp was changed exactly on January 1 of a given year and changed again exactly on January 1 of the following year.

Neither, have I but a lack of evidence does not constitute nor substantiate some other thinking as proof . A long term historical study and careful reading approach will yeild more facts than just thinking about it and drawing a conclusion based on one or to examples . DM
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ItsTooEarly said:
You can send that knife to Leroy R for a make over and it will come back looking almost new.... ITE

Have a look at mine... Before and after pics....
Deb-119-2.jpg

before...
Deb-119-3.jpg

before...
Deb-119-4.jpg

before...
Deb-119-5.jpg

before...
Deb-119-6.jpg


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after... make over...
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after... make over...
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after... make over...
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after... make over...
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Now that turns my crankshaft. I thoroughly enjoy restoration projects, and that one is done extremely well! I am very impressed with that work, envious too!
 
David Martin said:
BG42EDGE said:
Yes, that seems far more likely than your position that the 1967 knives had only one stamping (Buck*).

For all we know they could have had three different stampings in 67 not one or just two .


I say this because I've never heard of a single case where the stamp was changed exactly on January 1 of a given year and changed again exactly on January 1 of the following year.

Neither, have I but a lack of evidence does not constitute nor substantiate some other thinking as proof . A long term historical study and careful reading approach will yeild more facts than just thinking about it and drawing a conclusion based on one or to examples . DM
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Wow - you guys really know your stuff. If it helps, here she is disassembled. I'll post a thread soon about her restoration / customization.

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argonstrom said:
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Anyone else notice this angled grind? It shows clearly on the ricasso in the OP's second picture. Normally the later knives were straight in their grind like Armand's knife. This grind and the red bone spacers suggest this an early 2 liner I believe.

It was 1967 that Buck began export to Canada and hence the addition of USA to the stamp.

Calling it a late 60's knife is probably pretty safe. Vietnam era if you prefer seem a good label too.

EDIT: The OP's last picture of the disassembled knife shows micarta spacers or so it seems.
 
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