Flash II SAT not working!

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123tjd

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Gday Guys,

I bought my Flash II about a good year or so ago and have been more than happy with it. HOwever it so happens that my SOG was 'de-assisted' (if that is even a word- I doubt it), however I was just wondering if there is anything I can do to make the knife operate as per stock. A the moment it requires a push of the thumb stud and a considerable wrist flick to lock the blade. I have toyed with the pivot screw and used a bit of luibricant on the movements to no effect. Thanks for your help guys and for the record the dealer informed me that that was how all Australian SAT knives were the same.

Any help, experience or ideas would be greatly appreciated. Cheers guys, Tom
 
So it never worked or it stoped working? If never worked it likely had the spring removed for the blade. If it worked for how ever long and then stoped the spring ither poped out of its place in the blade or broke. Im sure chris will reply soon enough with a more difinitive answer for you. You all have some pretty ruff knife laws over their its possible your not allowed to own a spring assited knife (well buy import etc) over there.
 
The knife actually springs open approx half way currently and has always operated as such. The place I bought it claimed that all Australian models were not fully 'assisted' however some Aussie mail order companies sell full SAT models so I dont know if legality is a real issue.

I think I may have to take it apart and tinker with it but would rather know whether or not this is a good idea and/or possible before doing so. Thanks again for your help and assistance with this matter. Tom
 
123tjd said:
Thanks for your help guys and for the record the dealer informed me that that was how all Australian SAT knives were the same.
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I smell BS. I doubt SOG would go to the trouble of altering them for the Australian market, and i doubt anyone at the Australian end would either.
 
swingshot said:
I smell BS. I doubt SOG would go to the trouble of altering them for the Australian market, and i doubt anyone at the Australian end would either.
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Same after his secound post it almost sounds like the spring was broken and had a new bend put in that is keeping it from opening all the way. As for takeing them apart simple and easy. Ive not taken it apart to the point of exposeing the main spring but theres shouldnt be to much trouble. Esp with it only opening part of the way.

My zytel handled model uses a 2mm allen wrench for all screws. First thing i would do is loosen the pivot screw a tiny ammount and maybe the one handle screw closest to it. Its possible the blade is being pinched.
 
Ive played around with the main pivot screw and the screws along the body of the handle however although loosening them to varying degrees does loosen off the blade release it does not spring more than 3/4 the way to locking and the blade develops a little horizintal play.

For the record I have found one or two Australian online sellers claiming that they sell unassisted SAT models only, so maybe they are altered at the distributor level or something????

Thanks again guys , any help is much appreciated.
 
Okay.. I think I have a possible answer for you. From time to time our Australian distributor does order the Flash knives from us with out the assisted opening spring. I do not know the particulars as to why and when they are ordered that way, but we have shipped unassisted knives to them.

It sounds like you got one of these unassisted knives. So there is nothing "broken" with the knife it just has the main spring removed. I might be able to get a spring to you, but you would need to put it in yourself. It is not that hard but there are a couple small pieces that you would need to watch out for.

Chris
 
Chris@SOG said:
It is not that hard but there are a couple small pieces that you would need to watch out for.

Chris
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when i took mine apart the spring and piston popped out some how i managed to catch both in mid air. Was kind of funny.

to 123tjd press down on the lock lever while you remove the handle with the knife laying flat on one handle. Then just gently remove spring piston and safty. Small pin that acts as the pivot for the safty does come out fairly easy so watch for that to
 
Thanks for your help novaflare and chris@sog, Ill take it apart tonight and make sure there is nothing missing and I appreciate your offer to help chris if in which case there is no main spring. Cheers and I will be back with a reply shortly.
 
After taking it apart, one of the two washers on the blade was bent over on itself during assembly. Chris from SOG has offerred to send me out some new washers which will hopefully be a big help.
For the record after trying to straighten out the washer myself the SAT is now working but the blade movement is at about 5 mm, or 1/5 of an inch for you non-metric folk! Anyway, hope to get the washers soon so my blade is functional again.
 
123tjd said:
After taking it apart, one of the two washers on the blade was bent over on itself during assembly. Chris from SOG has offerred to send me out some new washers which will hopefully be a big help.
For the record after trying to straighten out the washer myself the SAT is now working but the blade movement is at about 5 mm, or 1/5 of an inch for you non-metric folk! Anyway, hope to get the washers soon so my blade is functional again.
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Ahh the teflon washers i cant tell you how many knives ive had that they get chewed up in (mostly when i take them apart and clean the knive)
 
This is all I needed to read. I've been looking at a Flash II which I don't need :rolleyes: Now they sound like an even better deal -- all these potential problems, but they fix so easily. My friend popped up with a small SOG the other night. SAT is where it's at. :)
 
Esav Benyamin said:
This is all I needed to read. I've been looking at a Flash II which I don't need :rolleyes: Now they sound like an even better deal -- all these potential problems, but they fix so easily. My friend popped up with a small SOG the other night. SAT is where it's at. :)
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Well eery thing that can happen to a sog is going to show up in any production knife on the market. Not a negitive just something that will happen.
 
True. I sent off last night for the one I wanted, a Flash II camo handle. It didn't take much to convince me how much I wanted it. :)
 
Esav Benyamin said:
True. I sent off last night for the one I wanted, a Flash II camo handle. It didn't take much to convince me how much I wanted it. :)
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I think in the bang for your buck catagory sog is secound to none i can come up with off the top of my head esp true when you add in fetures for the price you pay.
 
Ive been a loyal user of SOG for some time now and apart from this minor fixable issue, ive always been impressed and quite frankly never been let down. Yes, Im not a knife expert but I use them alot and its my opinion that they represent a huge bargain range wide.
 
Esav, I have had a camo Flash II for about three years now, my son too..........it's really a good knife. :D

Robbie Roberson ;)
 
Yes, it is. I just got back on line to say so. :)

I am real pleased with the build quality. This is a solid knife, even if it is lightweight. I like the lockup. The blade has no play whatsoever. I like the bolt action lock release -- no problem closing it one-handed, either. Just for fun, nice camo job also, nice change from the basic black. I'm glad I went for it.

Now I ought to go for a walk in the woods and see what kind of damage I can do to that razor sharp factory edge. :D

So what's next? Either the Tomcat 3.0 or the Spec-Elite II.
 
I got my Flash II today. Man is this sucker sharp!! It rides in my front right pocket very well, not as heavy as my Benchmade Eidelweiss which I carried for over 8 years until I broke the tip. The only thing I'm not keen on is having the clip on the bottom, I guess I'm used to the Benchmade's clip on top. I could pull that knife and have the blade out in the blink of an eye and it actually saved my life onetime in downtown Atlanta. Does anybody have any tips about how to pop that blade out quickly with the clip on the bottom??

Other than the clip placement, which is just a personal preference, this knife appears to be very sturdy and I'm sure it will last as long as my old Benchmade did.

Thanks for any help which may be forethcoming!
 
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