Flat Grinding Problems

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I went from a Sears 2x42" and bought a Coote. I finally have it set up with a ceramic platen. I have my right side grind really looking good, but the other side is rounded and has flat spots. I did better with the Sears.

I bought the Harvey Dean video and tried grinding the other side upside down. It was ok. I cleaned it up on the slack belt portion.

Do most flat grinders grind both sides with the blade up? I just can't get the feel for it when the blade is up and pointing :confused:to my left. Flat grinding is harder than it looks. Thanks for all the replies.
 
Yeah, flat grinding can be challenging! I can tell you how I go about it, but everyone finds their own route in the end, for everything we do.

Not to belabor the obvious, but first I cut a 45 degree chamfer along the edge, right to the scribed center lines. This will give a quick visual reference for how close I'm coming to getting the edge thinned out enough. Once the reflection goes away, I'm at the scribed lines.

Next, I put a new 60 grit (or 36 if I'm not so patient) on the 10 inch wheel and do most of the initial stock removal on that. I make a series of parallel grinds, right to the scribed lines at the edge and shallower as you near the spine of the knife. Be careful not to cut too deep! Or you'll just have to start over. The idea is to get the basic form of the grind down with the wheel, which removes a lot more stock with less aggravation than trying to do it on the platen. It will also help to keep your grind from rocking as you lean into the platen next.

Then, with a nice sharp 60 grit belt I clean up the hollows and get the basic shape of the flat grind. This is the time to get the plunge evened up and ensure the grind line is the same height on both sides of the blade. I work back and forth between the sides, keeping them even. Don't get too carried away getting the final shape of the flats, as subsequent grits will still remove a lot of steel. After it's set, I work through the grits.

And yes, I grind with the edge up on both sides. That seems to work best for me, as I can keep an eye on the scribed center lines and eyeball the depth of the grind from the blade's angle against the platen. Also, the spine gives my supporting fingers better purchase than the edge would on the "off" side. It helped me to grind a a slower speed until I got the hang of it...

Don't know whether this will help. The old refrain, "practice, practice, practice!" comes to mind. ;)

Good luck and have fun,
 
I think learning the scribe line and 45 bevel, watch the gap trick did more for me than anything else as far as jumps in flat grind ability. I do it all on a platen but, that method give me a gauge. I also use a push stick and it I want the grind closer to the spine I press closer to the spine with the stick all the time watching the edge gap. Thank you Tom
 
i do all hollow grinds...But i had an old timer show me how to flat grind...He did it on an 8 in...wheel holding the blade vertical.....Handle up......With scribed center lines it was easy.....to keep the sides even............It worked for me..........Its worth a try...........carl..
 
I learned to grind with the edge up and watching the gap and scribed line. Sharp belts allow me to stay on the blade much longer and make small adjustments because they run cooler. Too much pressure causes heat and frustration. Relax, hold the blade loosely and spray blue layout fluid on it once in a while to see where you are actually removing steel. I have ground bevels for 20 years now and I still use the layout fluid when Im almost done especially on the fine grits.
 
I use a coote and it works fine for flat grinding. I use a filing guide to help me get a good grind line when starting. I blue the edge and if the blade is clean I will blue the blade, I mark the edge in 1/3 of thickness so I will grind off 1/3 from each side and leave 1/3 for heat treat. I use a old belt and grind off the edge off each side at about 45 degrees to leave only the center line (last 1/3 for heat treat showing). I then put on a new belt 60 grit and start to grind, the first cut is about 20 degrees and keep reducing the angel to get the grind line to move up to where I want to end. Like bruce says if the grind angle is to too shallow )cutting to much from edge, then look for a little gap between the edge and the belt, the 45 should give you some gap to work with.
 
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