fleabay Sebenza chop shop

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JPR984

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Anyone notice the fleabay seller who has chopped their sebenza insingo and selling it as blade only and front scale and lock scale only? combined it is going for way more than the entire knife would be listed. anyone else bothered by such practices? I doubt it will sell at those prices, but it still bugs me, its such a blatantly obvious ploy to extract as much cash out of its sale as possible. On the otherhand maybe its a smart idea...Im conflicted.:grumpy:
 
I don't think it's a big deal. I mean it's the sellers blade and if he wants to do that and someone buys it he/she has the right too.
 
Nic S. said:
I mean it's the sellers blade
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True stuff.

But I understand what JPR is saying. When I see an (apparent) vintage car blown up in a movie, I say "nooooooo!". We don't like to see the "good stuff" - whether knives, cars or whatever - destroyed for no good reason.
 
Nic S. said:
I don't think it's a big deal. I mean it's the sellers blade and if he wants to do that and someone buys it he/she has the right too.
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It is their knife and they can indeed do what they want with it but that does nothing to change the fact that it's a rather poor show indeed. It's nothing short of greed in the form of gouging money from knife people. Individuals like that are not knife people, they are just interesting in making money and will add nothing of value to the knife world. Case in point, a stripped down knife being sold for parts to try and get a few extra bucks out of it.....classy, classy stuff. :rolleyes:

Not to mention the possible future issue of a fankenSebenza being out there that could well lead to deceit or out right lies when it comes to selling time for that knife....we don't need that sort of thing happening.
 
powernoodle said:
True stuff.

But I understand what JPR is saying. When I see an (apparent) vintage car blown up in a movie, I say "nooooooo!". We don't like to see the "good stuff" - whether knives, cars or whatever - destroyed for no good reason.
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haha totally agree, except at least in the movies, they're usually not authentic cars. Just a bunch of fiberglass and shiny paint.
 
I don't see a problem. It always bugs me when people get all worked up about someone trying to make a little money. Do you work for free? He isn't gouging anyone. People can make up their own minds to buy something or not. We don't need to decide what something is worth to someone else.

Why do people in a hobby always think nobody should make money from that hobby? If you buy a blade and keep it for 20 years, then it becomes rare and sought after, are you going to sell it for what you originally paid? I sure as hell wouldn't. I love making money. For your sakes I hope you do too.
 
There's a couple of ways to see this situation. Either be disgusted or this guy is giving someone the opportunity to piddle with ideas. Would you or anyone else want to take apart an expensive knife that was bought with hard earned money and let a buddy try something new. I think not. If you want to really look at it hard, what's the difference between what this guy is doing and people trading knives before they are unboxed. Of course, so they can maximize their profit margin. On the other hand, it does give others the ability to get something they otherwise just would not have the opportunity to do if it weren't for guys like this, I try not to knock the middle man. They open up a world of choice.
 
I think we all make enough money outside of our knives, even a few hunded $ made on a knife is nothing so why be "that guy" ? I would rather live in the knowledge I gave a fellow enthusiast a good and fair deal. You also don't seem botherd by the issue of parts going into other knives, that will only cause problems in the long run and as I say we don't need that. Different strokes for different folks, as they say......

al g blenny said:
I don't see a problem. It always bugs me when people get all worked up about someone trying to make a little money. Do you work for free? He isn't gouging anyone. People can make up their own minds to buy something or not. We don't need to decide what something is worth to someone else.

Why do people in a hobby always think nobody should make money from that hobby? If you buy a blade and keep it for 20 years, then it becomes rare and sought after, are you going to sell it for what you originally paid? I sure as hell wouldn't. I love making money. For your sakes I hope you do too.
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Well said!

I just think (as mentioned early) it sucks to see perfection parted out!

al g blenny said:
I don't see a problem. It always bugs me when people get all worked up about someone trying to make a little money. Do you work for free? He isn't gouging anyone. People can make up their own minds to buy something or not. We don't need to decide what something is worth to someone else.

Why do people in a hobby always think nobody should make money from that hobby? If you buy a blade and keep it for 20 years, then it becomes rare and sought after, are you going to sell it for what you originally paid? I sure as hell wouldn't. I love making money. For your sakes I hope you do too.
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Haze said:
It's nothing short of greed in the form of gouging money from knife people
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There is no gouging going on here whatsoever. When the electricity goes out for 10 days during an ice storm, and your local retailer doubles the price of generators, that's price gouging because its hard to live without electricity. But selling a high end luxury item (a.k.a., a toy) is totally different. Just don't buy the Sebenza blade on eBay if you don't want it. Problem solved. Its no more greedy for someone to sell a Sebenza blade on eBay than it is for Chris Reeve to sell the Sebenza. They are both doing it to make money, and that's what made the Sebenza available in the first place. If you want to talk about greedy, look at the MSRP of a Sebenza 25.
 
It's totally different than CRK selling a product they produce and this reads like a "Fisher Price, my first debate" level of argument.....You calling CRK greedy is an interesting one, too.

powernoodle said:
There is no gouging going on here whatsoever. When the electricity goes out for 10 days during an ice storm, and your local retailer doubles the price of generators, that's price gouging because its hard to live without electricity. But selling a high end luxury item (a.k.a., a toy) is totally different. Just don't buy the Sebenza blade on eBay if you don't want it. Problem solved. Its no more greedy for someone to sell a Sebenza blade on eBay than it is for Chris Reeve to sell the Sebenza. They are both doing it to make money, and that's what made the Sebenza available in the first place. If you want to talk about greedy, look at the MSRP of a Sebenza 25.
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I saw it and just ignored it. Other than the plane scale that you could have bought and had engraved, the blade and lock side are pretty much worthless since the lock has to be mated to the blade for it to work properly. I have gotten into so many arguments about blade swapping over the years and in the end, thats pretty much what buying the lockside or another blade will result to. Like I said, I just ignored it.
 
Haze said:
I think we all make enough money outside of our knives, even a few hunded $ made on a knife is nothing so why be "that guy" ? I would rather live in the knowledge I gave a fellow enthusiast a good and fair deal. You also don't seem botherd by the issue of parts going into other knives, that will only cause problems in the long run and as I say we don't need that. Different strokes for different folks, as they say......
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I disagree. I like muscle cars, and I make a decent living. So with your logic if I was to sell a car I shouldn't try and make some money on it I should just let it good for a deal as long as the buyer is in the hobby as well?
 
Haze said:
I think we all make enough money outside of our knives, even a few hunded $ made on a knife is nothing so why be "that guy" ?
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Whoa there buddy. Who are you to say what enough money is? I don't want to get too political here but it's not your decision to make how much money anyone else earns. I can think of a few historical leaders that told their subjects how much money they could make.
 
Haze said:
It's totally different than CRK selling a product they produce and this reads like a "Fisher Price, my first debate" level of argument.....You calling CRK greedy is an interesting one, too.
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So it's OK to sell something for a premium if you manufacture it but reselling is bad? Where do you get your food? Your car? Your clothes?
 
Poor form.

On the other hand ... it is not my knife so who am I to say. I would just ignore it ... as I would ignore any Sebenza with no proper documentation, precisely for the type of issue that this can generate.
 
I doubt it will turn out well for him. At those prices I wouldn't expect anything to sell. As nyefmaker said, anyone buying other than the scale is taking a big chance- sometimes parts will fit together sometimes they won't. CRK makes sure they do fit and at a better price. Now if the scale was about a 1/3 of what he wants I might look at that for a project.
 
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Nic S. said:
I disagree. I like muscle cars, and I make a decent living. So with your logic if I was to sell a car I shouldn't try and make some money on it I should just let it good for a deal as long as the buyer is in the hobby as well?
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haha yes exactly.

I bought a '63 corvette in 1963 for $4300. It's been sitting in my garage for the past 50 years. Great condition.

I'm gonna sell it. So I should sell it for $4300 right because the person who wants it really loves it.

(this is a fake story. I wasn't born yet. I wish I had a 1963 corvette. Actually I wish I had a garage;))
 
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