Folder for meat processing

jill jackson said:
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Could you tell me what that is, please? I have never seen that, it looks like a Salted Massad Ayoob.

As to the question, I'd rec a leaf-shaped Spyderco, as they have stronger tips. Maybe a Native 5, but that could be too small.
Some of those Cold Steels will work great, too. I have an Espada XL that I intend as basically a folding kitchen/meat/BBQ knife.
Sorry about the PM2 tip, I know they can be fragile.
 
Hashishiin said:
Could you tell me what that is, please? I have never seen that, it looks like a Salted Massad Ayoob.

As to the question, I'd rec a leaf-shaped Spyderco, as they have stronger tips. Maybe a Native 5, but that could be too small.
Some of those Cold Steels will work great, too. I have an Espada XL that I intend as basically a folding kitchen/meat/BBQ knife.
Sorry about the PM2 tip, I know they can be fragile.
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Catcherman, I bought it on the exchange here years ago. Over 10 inches and 4 and 3/4 inch blade.

C17 Catcherman - Spydiewiki

www.spydiewiki.com www.spydiewiki.com
 
shane45-1911 said:
Folders aren't ideal for meat. They are a pain to clean and sterilize after use, and get full of gunk in no time. Salmonella is a real risk if you use a folder for meat, continuously.

There's a reason why butchers use fixed blades to process/cut meat.
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I don't think food processing and especially raw meat is the best use for a folder . 🤮

If that's all you've got ...then that's what you have to use . Otherwise no , for me anyway .

It's just nasty and unhygienic ,IMO .

Not too easy on the knife insides either , if you really clean it properly .

Just overall a huge PITA . YMMV !

But anyone who wants to play this way is welcome to learn the hard way . ;) :thumbsup:
 
Arathol said:
Large folders have been used for decades to process game. I don't see an issue here......
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No issue if you are willing and capable of completely cleaning the knife after use. Blood-borne pathogens and salmonella will ruin your day. And night. And probably the next few days and nights after that.

A fixed blade makes cleaning exponentially easier.
 
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augostos,

Sounds like you have a pension for Spyderco.

I would choose either of two folders that others have referenced above.

My Catcherman has processed numerous salmon over 40 pounds over the last three decades. The cuts through the spine above the gill plates never created any damage to mine. Steaking or filleting is a dream in knife ergonomics. The thickness of the meat on a 40 lb plus salmon is somewhat akin to the thicknesses one might experience in other forms of meat carving.

My K2 would be another valid choice especially considering it has been an EDC of choice for me for a number of years. Blade geometry makes cutting meat a dream, and 10V blade steel akin to the Energizer Bunny.
 
Buck 110/112
Schrade Old Timer 6OT/7OT.
PUMA (larger) Lockbacks. (those that are Buck 110/112 size)
One and two blade slipjoint folding hunter.
moose pattern.
Trapper pattern (full size).
Muskrat pattern.
OKAPI.
Otter Mercat.
"Toothpick" pattern.
The multi blade German "Sportsman" knives.
Peeling and butchering critters large and small, and fowl is what they were designed and marketed for.

85/91/93mm and larger SAK's.
SVORD Peasant.
The Opinel and other "penny knives" have also been used for generations to peel, field dress and butcher game critters and fowl as well as "domesticated" foul, and to clean and/or fillet fish.

Several multitools also have a blade set suitable for processing game. The Leatherman Charge, and others for example, has a serrated blade with a gut hook, and the "wood saw" is quite effective cutting bone. (ditto the SAK "wood saw".)

As long as you rinse/wash the blood off when finished you should be fine.
As far as "sterile" is concerned, it ain't happenin' no matter what you use - folder or non-folding.
"Sterile" is a myth.
Anything exposed to the atmosphere is instantly contaminated by among other things, germs and viruses, terrestrial and extraterrestrial "dust", mold and other spores, plant pollen, tiny bug/skeeter/gnat/fruitfly 💩, industrial pollution, whatever is in the exhaust of aircraft in flight, E.G.: particles of soot, vaporized oil and unburned fuel, ....
 
afishhunter said:
Buck 110/112
Schrade Old Timer 6OT/7OT.
PUMA (larger) Lockbacks. (those that are Buck 110/112 size)
One and two blade slipjoint folding hunter.
moose pattern.
Trapper pattern (full size).
Muskrat pattern.
OKAPI.
Otter Mercat.
"Toothpick" pattern.
The multi blade German "Sportsman" knives.
Peeling and butchering critters large and small, and fowl is what they were designed and marketed for.

85/91/93mm and larger SAK's.
SVORD Peasant.
The Opinel and other "penny knives" have also been used for generations to peel, field dress and butcher game critters and fowl as well as "domesticated" foul, and to clean and/or fillet fish.

Several multitools also have a blade set suitable for processing game. The Leatherman Charge, and others for example, has a serrated blade with a gut hook, and the "wood saw" is quite effective cutting bone. (ditto the SAK "wood saw".)

As long as you rinse/wash the blood off when finished you should be fine.
As far as "sterile" is concerned, it ain't happenin' no matter what you use - folder or non-folding.
"Sterile" is a myth.
Anything exposed to the atmosphere is instantly contaminated by among other things, germs and viruses, terrestrial and extraterrestrial "dust", mold and other spores, plant pollen, tiny bug/skeeter/gnat/fruitfly 💩, industrial pollution, whatever is in the exhaust of aircraft in flight, E.G.: particles of soot, vaporized oil and unburned fuel, ....
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Nope ! You are dangerously half right . Unless you really can and DO , thoroughly clean all parts of the folder . People are generally lazy and sloppy , by nature .

The type of organisms attracted to the slime from gutting and dressing out game is not the same . Blood nurtures pathogens !

Take some raw liver/ chicken giblets and leave out to get funky . Use your nose , unless it's dead from smoking or old age . Organoleptic evaluation .

Do as you like personally , you are probably totally immune by now , but generally not good practice , IMO .

There's a dang good reason that kitchen knives and knives used for commercial slaughtering and butchering are mostly fixed and stainless /plastic . Easily cleaned .

Food poisoning is a real and serious thing ; not just for sissies anymore . 🤮

What works for you may not be healthy for others with less experience . ;)

"Sterile" may be somewhat "a myth" but antisepsis its definitely NOT !

Study the historical efficacy of battlefield surgery, from before and after , the practice of antisepsis . 🤔
 
DocJD said:
There's a dang good reason that kitchen knives and knives used for commercial slaughtering and butchering are mostly fixed and stainless /plastic . Easily cleaned .
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Nope.....Its far easier and cheaper to stamp out 100 blades from sheet steel than to make a single folding knife. Stuff like that is made and sold dirt cheap as its considered disposable. Its just not cost effective to use a folding knife that will be used up in a matter of weeks or even days in a commercial setting.

Battlefield surgery has nothing at all to do with this. The biggest problem there was going from patient to patient without cleaning anything. I don't think that the deer really care.....
Over the past 100 or so years there have been many thousands of game animals processed with large folding knives. Back in the day no self respecting hunter would show up in deer camp without a folding knife such as a Remington Bullet, or a Case 65 pattern, or a KaBar cokebottle hunter. How many thousands of deer do you suppose have been field dressed and processed by the ubiquitous Buck 110 since it was first produced? I've never heard of any massive outbreaks of food poisoning or salmonella or anything else.....
 
Stainless or Carbon steel? I know several members swear by Carbon steel, especially on fixed blades, but since the discussion has shifted into hygiene, dressing several animals and ease of cleaning does the rust matter or not, in that respect?
 
Arathol said:
Nope.....Its far easier and cheaper to stamp out 100 blades from sheet steel than to make a single folding knife. Stuff like that is made and sold dirt cheap as its considered disposable. Its just not cost effective to use a folding knife that will be used up in a matter of weeks or even days in a commercial setting.

Battlefield surgery has nothing at all to do with this. The biggest problem there was going from patient to patient without cleaning anything. I don't think that the deer really care.....
Over the past 100 or so years there have been many thousands of game animals processed with large folding knives. Back in the day no self respecting hunter would show up in deer camp without a folding knife such as a Remington Bullet, or a Case 65 pattern, or a KaBar cokebottle hunter. How many thousands of deer do you suppose have been field dressed and processed by the ubiquitous Buck 110 since it was first produced? I've never heard of any massive outbreaks of food poisoning or salmonella or anything else.....
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Why take any risk at all ? :confused:

But , do as you see fit . ;)
 
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