Folders for Borneo

OK, OK!
Hoodoo, I stand by my words, however! I did say often not always. I don’t think we’re going to fall out about this are we?
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Just be careful where you put that BMF!

Thanks for the previous post.

Happy Trails,
Iain
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It just occured to me that a good knife for this venture would be a Spyderco Ladybug on a cord around the neck. It would meet most of your needs and be in your price range. It would be lacking for food prep but it's light and small enough to be carried all day.
 
A low-cost knife (like an Opinel) is one thing, but an "imitation" or an "Eastern copy" is another.


But, then, maybe I'm just a snob.


Costas
P.S. The knife I am carrying as I type this, is a Spyderco Cricket Lightweight (zytel-handle, about $40, a real snob's lance...)
 
Gee, I hope no one makes me wear the letter A for buying this Master Knife. It is one of my favorite cheap knives. I bought four of these at a gunshow once for $8 apiece and these are solid performers. Aluminum handles and AUS 8 blades, wonderfully smooth action and good looking to boot. No doubt some sort of BM ripoff clone. But unlike some Benchmades I own, there is no blade wobble. They do, however, say made in Taiwan, just like some of my Spydercos.
http://www4.gvsu.edu/triert/master.htm


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Hoodoo

And so, to all outdoor folks, the knife is the most important item of equipment.

Ellsworth Jaeger - Wildwood Wisdom
 
Without going through the fustration of owning a poorly made knife, how can someone truely appreciate a quality knife?
I remember swearing I would "Never even think" about spending $100 on a knife. Now I have several quality folders, and one of my daily joys is choosing my "Carry of the day".
 
Frank, I already got the knives and sent them off, the Ladybug was not what my friend asked for (a bit on the small side) but I agree about the weight. I have several Spyderco knives and as I said at the top, I’d have taken 50/50 edge Enduras. I don’t know what other tools they’ll have; I’m sure they’ll have what they need for whatever mode of transport they’re using.

Costas you might be a snob, but with a knife that size you must have a host of redeeming features…
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Hoodoo, great looking knife, way better than the ones I got, I think I’d have bought a handful too, I'm Scottish and like bargains even more than knives! I’ve got a couple of Benchmades and they seem OK but I know a few people have had some problems.

Mr. Clancy, I used to do exactly the same but nowadays it’s a rare occurrence, since I bought a Spyderco Standard that goes with me almost everywhere.

Thanks for the input,
Iain


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"I'm arm'd with more than complete steel - The justice of my quarrel." Christopher Marlowe
 
bill chancy. I agree, I've broken quite a few in my time. I have now settled with some higher cost, simple designed and far superior quality knives. I took some time to get there but over the long term the investment was worth it. But the only reason it was worth it was because I use my knives a lot, and enjoy using them.
Now my Chris Reeve Project I consider money well spent, cost effective: working out at less than $25 per year. Thats because it has had a lot of use, and been taken to places where I couldn't afford my main knife to fail.
Most people don't need very high performance knives. SAK's and Opinals are not high performance knives but are leaders in their class. The other makers I mentioned are great examples of their class. They do the job that they say they will within reason.
However, its the untried and dubious grey producers, I would even add the large producers that target the lower end of the market with "look the part" products, that as a knife snob I really get annoyed with. Good people, with their hard earned cash are being ripped off. Fortunately many of these knives are never really put to the test as most people do not use them that much. If they do then they learn fast. It still bugs me though.
On the forum we can only try to educate and be helpful.
But the most fun is arguing the finer points with the other knife snobs.

 
But a real snob turns his nose up at something he has never seen, handled, used, tested, etc. because he has his own preconceived, close-minded notions about something.

I can refer you to Jeff Randall's often repeated comments based on his real-world experience with South American natives that use POS machetes and use them well. One person's POS may be another person's livlihood. Until someone has actually used a knife and is very familiar with it, I am skeptical of their comments on it's usefulness, and even more skeptical when they assume the holier-than-thou attitude. Most of the time, their information is second hand, and not based on actual experience. And in this case, comments were made about knives that the person couldn't possibly know anything about, since the specific brand name and particualr specifications were never mentioned. But of course, a lack of specific information doesn't stop the true snob. They are way above such paltry concerns.

Something I find interesting (and this is a biased opinion and observation) is that, as some knife fanciers buy increasingly more expensive knives, the criteria used to delineate what constitutes a POS seems to rise. This is not true of everyone but I've seen it happen fairly often. And yes, my old timer might seem like a POS compared to my Sebenza, but it isn't (and neither is my Master knife). It is still a very useable, functioning knife. As are many of the so-called POSs out there. And yes, there is a lot of junk out there too. And like Bill said, you need to experience the good and the bad to know what is really bad. I'm not defending crapola. I'm just saying you should be well informed before you start running down any particular knife or knives.

I have a little Taiwan Fury that sits in my living room. Aluminum handle, unknown stainless steel. Hollow ground razor blade edge. I use it to cut articles out of newspapers. I've had it three years and never sharpened it and it still slices paper like a new razor. POS? I don't think so. It passes the spine whack test, no problemo, and there is zero play in the pivot. It was another gun-show purchase for $10. It cuts articles out of the newspaper better than my Sebenza (mainly due to the edge geometry).

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Hoodoo

And so, to all outdoor folks, the knife is the most important item of equipment.

Ellsworth Jaeger - Wildwood Wisdom

[This message has been edited by Hoodoo (edited 08-10-2000).]
 
Hoodoo,
you're the kind of guy I could ask to buy me a knife with confidence, my sentiments exactly. Seems to me, and I'm passing no judgement here, that there are two main camps on the forums, enthusiastic users and enthusiastic collectors, some do both but I think they are a minority. I've bought knives to use from people who collect and deal and I think that's just one great feature of BF and the community, but you have got to live and let live.

By the way this is my first 25+ blazing topic so thanks to everyone, and I do mean everyone, who pitched in. I think we've kind of "wandered into the woods" as far as my original post, hell I thought that was it when I bought the things!

Cheers!
Iain

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"I'm arm'd with more than complete steel - The justice of my quarrel." Christopher Marlowe
 
Congrats Sgian Dubh. I still want to know how they faired.

We are all guilty of being snobs as some point. I have some opinions of steels that I have never tested. Even if I had I might have had a badly tempered one. The Stanley knife is a worlds best seller and what a brilliant tool it is. It doesn't take much to cut a piece of string.
 
I know this has nothing to do with the original post, but...
I too have sometimes been a bit of a knife snob, even though the most I've ever spent on a knife is exactly $100. However, I also own and use a number of SAK's from Victorinox, and own a few from Wenger, too. I've gotten a good amount of use from these, and you really can have a lot of fun with them. You don't need a $400. custom tactical folder to enjoy and get great use out of. In fact, if I did spend that much on a knife, I'd probably not want to use it, thus I wouldn't enjoy it.

I'll admit, the first one-handed folder I bought was an "eagle" Delica rip-off. It's fully serrated and sharp, but I don't like the way it cuts, so I gave it away. But that knife made me want the real thing, thus I re-started my knife mania 3 yrs ago.

Everybody starts at some point. Maybe they'll move up, maybe not. The most important thing is you are able to make what you have work for you and enjoy it.
Jim
 
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