For Sale Forum Issues

John Hollister

John Hollister

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Has anyone else noticed what's happening on the "For Sale" forums?

Strings labeled things like "Look Here", "Check this out", "Knives for Sale", "Customs & Production", ect.

No prices on knives, "Make me an offer", "Email for price sheet", "This knife is on Ebay".

A photo link that leads to a Photopoint account full of knives, all for sale, not the specific knife in the ad. Then to add insult to injury, in some cases there's no prices on the knives when you do finally find it!

Am I wrong here or does this bug anyone else?

John

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I must say I feel your pain on this one.

OTOH, I have put up a few knives for sale there without a price, but that is because I set out to trade them, and it was clearly stated. Sometimes I got offers and sold them however, so I may be part of the problem. If I am, please let me know and I will fix it from now on.
 
Hey Guys...

Yup starting to look kinda Cheap in there!!

Noticed that last night...

There was about 4-5 of them by the same person...

ttyle

eric...

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Yup, I agree. Prices should be posted and the title should state the knife. Starting to look like an internet flea market
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I really noticed this last night. Several knives posted for sale, with no prices at all.
Now, If your only trying to trade a knife, and you state this in your post, no price makes a bit of sense, although posting a trade value you have in mind does help.

And please, don't post links to auctions without saying so in the subject of the post.
This really irks me, and I wouldn't buy whatever knife your selling no matter how good a deal it is.

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I agree with the "no prices" and the "ebay auctions". Seems like the "ebay horse was beaten" not a long ago and mgt must have decided they were ok. As for "suspected dealers", it seems they are always uncovered in the long run.
 
It is inappropriate to post announcements of knives at auction. The auction sites are well-known and all have good search features. People interested in buying a knife can search those sites for themselves.

Vauge topics work against the seller. For best results, use a specific topic. If you have several diverse knives to sell, a topic like "Assorted knives for sale" is NOT the way to go. Instead, you may have to make several separate posts each with a specific topic.

Finally, my pet peeve, people who remove the price after the knife is sold. If you want to edit your post to indicate that the knife has been sold, fine, do so. It'll save you dealing with unnecessary e-mail. But leave the price. The for sale forum, like all of the forums here, is archived and can be searched. So, if someone in the future wants to see some historical results of sales to get an idea of what the going price on a specific knife is, he can search those old posts and find 'em... but not if you've editted out the price.

A lot of sites where you might go to sell something, eBay for example, charge the seller a fee. The For Sale forum here at bladeforums.com is free. What you give back to the community is the creation of that historic record. It's not much to ask.


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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
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I agree! Guys, NO Auctions! Also leave the price up so we can see what a good price is. Thanks!
 
I agree. Especially with David and Chuck. If they don't respect my time enough to state in the topic header what they are selling, I don't bother looking at it. I also hate when they remove the prices. I look back at old posts a lot to see what a fair price is for knives that I'm interested in. I've never understood why anyone would take the time to go back and remove the price. What's the point? Just make a new post and tell everyone that it's been sold. Good topic!

Jim McCullough

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I'll second what everyone here has said. Be specific, give a price, and let us know when it's sold. Also, if the knife hasn't sold in two or three months, stop bringing the damn thing to the top. Either nobody wants it or your price is too high.
 
I agree with everything so far. It's been getting a little out of control in there. If you are selling a knife, list what it is in the subject line, then in the post list any needed info about it, price and, if possible, a pic or a link to a pic of the actual knife. Burke, I have to disagree with you on that one about BTTT. If someone has already seen the post, and didn't want to buy it, don't open up the post. But I've had several knives that have been on the board for a week or two, and finally sold from bringing it BTTT. Not everyone is on the board all of the time, and not everyone see's the post the first time through the FS forum.

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I propose we make John the FOR SALE FORUM police and have him take care of this matter in a timely fashion!!!!!!!!
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There is a certain etiquette that needs to be observed when using the For Sale forum. A breach of this etiquette is a disservice to both buyers and sellers here. I find that links to E-Bay auctions are especially bothersome.

The For Sale forum is for buying/selling/and trading knives among friends in this virtual community of ours. Transactions here are conducted with honesty, understanding, and a smile. But most importantly, the transactions that occur here are no-nonsense. Let's do away with the nonsense and get back on track. No more auction advertisements... no more "fishing" for best bids... no more incomplete or inaccurate descriptions... etc.

Perhaps someone would like to volunteer to put together a brief guide to "Exchange Etiquette?"

Also worthy of discussion if the definition of "mint" and a mutually agreed upon classification system of condition of knives. There was a thread discussing this very topic not too long ago but I can't seem to find it right now...
 
I am going to move a copy of this thread to the For Sale Individual forum. I know some folks read that forum and almost nothing else. It would be good for people to read the comments in this thread. I will leave this thread open here in this forum as well. Happy trading!

Paracelsus
 
I agree with Wulf. Let's have some guidelines on condition. I recently saw someone's interpretation of "nib" which basically said the knife was untouched. Who gets a knife and doesn't handle or play with it some? Does that mean it should be labeled "lnib"?
 
Wulf,

Somebody did write a well thought out proposal for guidelines. His name is on the tip of my tongue but I'm drawing a blank. He is a regular around here and his first name is Brian. I think he lives in New York. Come on guys help me out. He got burnt on a deal and took the time to write up some very good ideas. Hopefully he will see this and provide a link.

Jim McCullough

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Next time you feel your life is sooo tough, read this- Some American Heroes
 
Has anyone thought about having a seperate forum for trading knives, apart from the for sale forum, I know I can't be the only one who has a whole bunch of knives that they have purchased that they are willing to part with, but don't have the money to buy new ones, so they like to trade for the new ones, it seems to me that if you could eliminate some of the posts in the for sale forum, there would be less of the bttt, and other posts that seem to clutter that thing so much. It is so busy that a post can be removed from the first page in about an hour some times, and they never last a full day. I think anything to slow down the posts in that single forum would greatly improve it.
Kyle
 
Hi Jim, you've got a good memory. I'm guilty as charged of trying to have some buying/selling guidelines established.
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My suggestion, however, was focused on the transactional aspects of buying & selling. It didn't address the related issues of postings, adequate packaging, etc.

Anyway, here is the Request For Discussion thread, back from the depths of the archives thanks to Paracelsus.
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The link to the draft guidelines is contained in the second paragraph of the first message but I'll repeat it here for everyone's convenience.

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Cheers,
Brian

He who finishes with the most toys wins.

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