For Sale Forum Pricing

Dennis in MA said:
Well you all know that I'm on board on this.

I don't understand the privacy thing. You sell a knife on a public forum - what's privacy about????
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Well, my understanding for example: I am looking for a SMOG, someone put it $400.00 Wow...I have not been looking & checking for it all the time on forum. With my sense, I still think its a bit high, and I start to wonder what the price of a SMOG when it was last sold, so I know what to bargin through PM. Then I go search...all the price are replaced with "SOLD". Then I bargin for $380 to see if seller agree. But to truth is, A SMOG's fair price might be only at $280-$350. Lack of resource.

Then Some else sees the selling, "sh*t, a SMOG can be sold at $400, wow, I am gonna sell mine the money too s*cker.".....then the price goes higher and higher until a price buyer willing to pay for it.

We all know how much we willing to pay premium for a INFI that we badly desire. A original price of Meaner Street $227 can now run for $400-500 easy, not sure how to define fair price when you really want it. :o
 
Most of the time I leave it up for my own reference but, I had requests to remove it as well!:confused: one buyer said "I'll take it" but please remove the price asap!

I asked why? he said if my wife See's how much I paid .....she'll kick my A$$!:eek: . So sometimes there's different factors to consider! :thumbup:


I fly with the wind!...what ever works:thumbup:

Jules
 
Along wuyeah's line of thought: If a piece of INFI was offered at "X" but bargained down to "Y" , would the Seller edit the final SOLD price to reflect the "fair" and "true" price?

If not, then inflation in offered price could ensue. It could possibly be perceived as price manipulation, which is probably not the stigma you'd want.

A voluntary web-based database would be the answer.
Once the transaction concluded the Seller would fill in the appropriate fields, inclduing the actual SOLD price. Of even more value would be a data field for OFFERED Price, and also SOLD PRICE.

Example: If Heavy Hearts are always being purchased for the OFFERED Price, that may indicate some upward slack due to demand. If Wardens are being Offered high, and 'bargained" down consistantly, then that also indicates something.

Simply leaving the OFFERED price on the original post with the word "SOLD" only truely tells you one thing, what the OFFERED price was. No one knows what happened in the PMs or the Emails.
 
On a few other boards, the mods ask you to leave the selling price on the post. On CPF, for example, it is written right in the rules as a matter of courtesy. Not only does is give an idea of an items worth, but trends can be seen as well. It also helps to stabilize value (sometimes up, sometimes down) but at least a seller can have a more accurate target to start his/her FS price at if he/she does his/her homework. I think this should go for all FS boards here on BF and not just be limited to Busse. Just my .02.
 
I'm all for it (leaving the price)....I find it really annoying when they are removed. And between this thread and the other thread where I originally brought up this question, I haven't heard a compelling logical reason for removing them. (My wife doesn't troll Bladeforums for example, and only rolls her eyes everytime she sees me on the forum).
 
I think that leaving the prices up would be a big help to everyone. I did a search the other day to find going rates for ADs and HDs to answer a post by another member. Many of the ads I ran across had the final price edited out. I was able to glean some good info, but not as much as I would have liked. As was said before, the price was already out there so IMO privacy isn't really an issue.

The database is another great idea. Maybe it should be put up as a sticky sorted by model and any other pertinent info that would add or detract from the price.
 
Makes sence to me. If I sell again I will leave the price up next time.
 
Whata NICE response from everyone. I don't know you guys are all up for this!!! VERY COOL~

Now go take your digital camera and, SELL ALL YOUR INFI, YEA SELL THEM ALL!

I need a tan SS WB, Satin SS MrS, Satin SHBM,.......;)
 
Ok, i am down with leaving the price up. First time seeing this thread, but i removed my prices from past adds as i saw this was the practice here... but will not nuke the prices anymore... (unless by request by buyer).
 
I've been thinking of this a lot lately as well, for me its not just watching the market or researching values alone. We're wanting to put the knives and guns on our homeowners insurance, a good database (ie the forum pricing) would, I hope, be a good reference in case of loss. Anyone know the rules involving market prices for collectables? I dont want them looking up original sales price and giving me that! :eek:

And what the heck is that about privacy? How can a public sale on a public forum be kept private? If one is so concerned about privacy just make all your sales off the forum.
 
idahoskunk said:
everybody knows the price posted anyway.
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No,they don't !

Especially when a posting might only last 2-3 minutes. By the time many find that it's even for sale, it's been edited to "sold" so the rest of us have no clue what the price was.

As to the "it's a matter of privacy" you just publicly posted the price!

If you settled for a lesser amount, then what's the deal about not letting the rest of Hog-dom know what the actual selling price was?
 
Leaving up the prices would be a wonderful service to those of us new to the Busse world. Thanks to all who are willing to do this.:thumbup:
 
My thoughts are, if you are quick to remove the price without the seller's permission, did you overprice it and don't want others to know?... hmmm:confused: ;)

It's a good reference and helps. :)
 
I agree. It's a good thing to leave the prices up after the sale. I have often wondered what the item sold for when it lasted only a couple of minutes and then showed "sold" where the price once was. I'd like the see a master list of sold prices like was mentioned earlier too.
 
I myself have bought something, sent the seller a PM regarding payment options, had the seller reply, and then go back to the thread to see again what the price was just top make sure I get it right and ... it's not there any more. All this in the matter of a few minutes as well.

For me, final selling price (not posted asking price) is what gets left behind.
 
I think there are getting to be to many rules in the forsale forum. Its almost like we are forgetting the Gold members are PAYING, in a sense renting the space to sell there. There is/should be some standard of what is reasonable use.

I see nothing wrong with asking the sellers to leave the price but somebody mentioned a 'rule'. Rule changes on services ALREADY purchased are bad mojo.

That is one of my problems with the recent rule change on bumping. That rule change should have come with a pro-rated refund offer for those that did not like the rule change on a service they had already purchased. IMHO

I understand the other side of the issue as well. Let me give my Apartment rental for a example. I signed a lease that allows me limited rights of use. Not all of my rights are spelled out in the lease. There are laws that grant other rights to the tenant. BUT I am not allowed to destroy the apartment just because I pay rent. Like wise somebody in the for-sale forum just because they pay what amounts to rent should not be able to engage in practices that degrade the value of the forsale forum as a commercial product. So yeah there is more than one way to look at it. I do see this side of the arguement.

Still rule changes that don't respect the fact that current members have paid to use the forum as is should be avoided when possible and some sort of real world trigger like falling revenues for the forum should be at the root of it. Once again IMHO.

This part of why I closed shop and took a cushy gubermint job. Having one boss is bad enough. Having thousands really gets on your nervs. That is the rub. If the forsale forum was free for all users then the forum creators would owe nothing to users. On the other hand once money changes hands and a contract is established the Business owners and Customers both have obligations to each other. Those obligations are best defined at the time the contract is created.

Or not.... in the end its just the internet.
 
LoL, it sounds like the beginning of the Jerry Busse Industrial Index....JBII instead of the Dow.
 
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