- Joined
- Jul 11, 2007
- Messages
- 849
Too hung up on the MSRP, you CAN find them for well below MSRP which I think you'd then me more agreeable to give them a try. I have 10+ Emersons now and haven't paid MSRP for any of them.
-
The BladeForums.com 2024 Traditional Knife is ready to order! See this thread for details: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/bladeforums-2024-traditional-knife.2003187/
Price is$300$250 ea (shipped within CONUS). If you live outside the US, I will contact you after your order for extra shipping charges.
Order here: https://www.bladeforums.com/help/2024-traditional/ - Order as many as you like, we have plenty.
For some reason, Emerson has never appealed to me.
- Thread starter MrPres
- Start date
Too hung up on the MSRP, you CAN find them for well below MSRP which I think you'd then me more agreeable to give them a try. I have 10+ Emersons now and haven't paid MSRP for any of them.
- Joined
- Feb 23, 2011
- Messages
- 834
@IGotStabbed
Thanks for your input. The MSRP of the Super Commander is at $312.95 at Ernie's website. I definitely wouldn't pay that. A good amount of searching on ebay and other online dealers price it at about $230-$250. That's $70 below MSRP, but is that about as good as it gets?
@sns3yuppy
When you're spending that much money, you obviously don't care, but looks count to me. Yes, the knife caught my initial interest because of looks. I don't think my experience of gaining initial interest to a knife based on how it looks is the most unique approach the knife world has ever seen. Of all the members here, your posts are filled with the most unwavering brainwashed lunacy. You cannot allow other people to have a different opinion from yourself. Please leave my posts alone.
Thanks for your input. The MSRP of the Super Commander is at $312.95 at Ernie's website. I definitely wouldn't pay that. A good amount of searching on ebay and other online dealers price it at about $230-$250. That's $70 below MSRP, but is that about as good as it gets?
@sns3yuppy
When you're spending that much money, you obviously don't care, but looks count to me. Yes, the knife caught my initial interest because of looks. I don't think my experience of gaining initial interest to a knife based on how it looks is the most unique approach the knife world has ever seen. Of all the members here, your posts are filled with the most unwavering brainwashed lunacy. You cannot allow other people to have a different opinion from yourself. Please leave my posts alone.
- Joined
- Jul 11, 2007
- Messages
- 849
A super commander has a 4in blade and goes for $240 shipped on KC; a CQC15 has a 3.9in blade and goes for $175 shipped. So assuming the blade is the single largest contributing factor in cost, there seems to be a premium for the commander model--same goes for the other size variants. I'm not sure if the premium is because of the commander's legacy or extra work in grinding that deep recurve.
personally, I'd go for the 15. I think $175 for it is an awesome deal--as big as the super commander and you get what I think is a more secure grip and the cqc7 tip.
personally, I'd go for the 15. I think $175 for it is an awesome deal--as big as the super commander and you get what I think is a more secure grip and the cqc7 tip.
No.
You missed the 100 dollar knife. You were too busy whining that I should sell you one, and missed one for sale in the classifieds.
Then again, the Commander I just bought was under a hundred, and that included shipping. It's not a copy.
I don't buy a knife to show it around, or to take out of my pocket to admire. I buy it to cut. Function is my primary concern with a knife, along with durability and reliability. It's a tool to be used, after all.
Your priority is a knife that "looks wicked," and so long as that's what makes you happy, your problems are solved. You don't need to handle a knife, don't need to know what it's worth under pressure, and it's not about a tool that will save your life, stay in your hand when it's wet, dirty, or covered in blood, or a knife that you can sharpen and maintain in the field. You need a "wicked" knife, and that should give you wide access to a big selection of cheap rambo knives the world over. Even a big cold steel sword if it floats your boat (never mind that it will fail).
Clearly you don't want to buy an Emerson knife. You bash them, complain about them (despite not owning one) and whine about the cost. You return to the thread again and again, and can't even help yourself when it comes to name calling and insults (sns3yuppy? Are you really 14 years old?). What it it that attracts you to the thread to continue posting? You don't want the knives, you won't buy the knives, yet you keep coming back to bash them and issue poorly worded self-affirming downplays of the brand. For what reason?
Really? How so?
If you don't mind an automatic, get a Kershaw-Emerson Commander. Back when dealers stocked them, they were 20-30$ less than the regular emerson Commanders, roughly 150 shipped, give or take 10. S30V blade, and aluminum handles with G10 overlays. There should be a few floating around the for sale sections on various forums. I own one and it's definitely a good knife - I fail to see how the regular Emerson commander would be more reliable/durable or better performing.
In theory - but how big is that potential? We're talking about a properly designed automatic, not a cheap knockoff.
But if extreme conditions/use can cause such failure, then a folder may not be the appropriate tool for the job, period. I really don't think a liner lock is significantly stronger than a properly made plunge lock or similar mechanism.
- Joined
- Apr 28, 2011
- Messages
- 92
If I may chime in; I want to understand the logic of this quick release conversation. For it to make any real sense, other than fun and interesting fantasy, it is necessary to know the following: . Does anyone actually have the statistics on how many lives are saved each year due to having a knife on one's person in the continental U.S.? I'm talking about a situation where one's life is saved with a knife after first being attacked by an equal or superior weapon? p.s. I'm not trying to throw water on the subject, just understand it, and so far the split second between a flipper and a wave having any importance makes very little sense to me in the real world.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...ant-to-tell-you-a-story?p=9313952#post9313952
Mr. Emerson states that the failure of the knives was a contributing factor in what transpired.
On the other hand, it isn't made clear whether the failure involved broken blades, failed locks, or some other sort of failure.
Out of the whole story, it's that level of responsiveness that caught my attention. Within 24 hours of contact, the prototype knife was designed, constructed, and submitted...and subsequently accepted following trial and evaluation. By the military; by a special operations group within the military. By the naval sea warfare group. That's impressive.
For those complaining that their pocket wore out the knife in six months, and for those complaining that they don't think the knife is up to the task, I submit that after you've put the knives through the same level of testing and evaluation as the operators who use them, and have truly taken the knives to hell and back, by all means check back in and let us know how they worked out.
Those of us who have been there (those "worst places," to which Emerson often refers) with the knives will tell you that they work fine when they're needed most. I've never personally seen one worn out the way some posters have described, let alone worn out from six months of sitting in the front pocket of a pair of jeans. Then again, perhaps some of these people are second only to Chuck Norris in their roughness and toughness, and perhaps they really are that abusive on their equipment. Anything is possible. I just don't believe it.
I wouldn't expect the Emerson knives to survive a thermonuclear attack, but I'd be happy to have one with me during an aircraft crash. Then again, I did. It's still with me. I think that's worth something.
- Joined
- Apr 19, 2007
- Messages
- 3,396
I can't speak about whether or not many of the posters actually need the wave feature. However, for those that do need it (Typically LE/Military with the possibility of Fire personnel), being able to draw a knife W/O the extra movement (Flipper, button on an auto, etc) can be an issue. However, in my personal experience I have found the wave feature to work more consistently when set-up with the wave forward (Unless you drill/tap the other side of an Emerson, wave forward is only available on waved Delicas/Enduras & Emerson's Kbit). I am seriously considering tapping the left side scale on my CQC-10 for that purpose.
- Joined
- Apr 19, 2007
- Messages
- 3,396
Very good points. As I've said before, I have a '99 CQC-7 that has gone through a great deal (Both in & out of this country) & including having been used defensively (& legally, I might add). It still functions just fine. The liner-lock travels to about 2/3, but there is no blade-play (Horizontal or vertical). I certainly can't complain about the knife. It's done all that I've asked of it, including what could be considered abuse (Sometimes it's all I had when I needed it).
Thats great to hear i just scored a true lefty cqc-7 waved in black and i really like how fast it deploys. It's also easy to sharpen and gets scary sharp, yeah its a cool knife.
- Joined
- Feb 22, 2007
- Messages
- 9,008
SNS3GUPPY - I have a major beef with you. My Commanders are definitely wicked
Okay, so I would like to hear about that plane crash and thank you for your service. It must have been a wild ride. Also, thank you for some field use feedback. I appreciate that.
I guess I am just a little hurt :*( I bought all of my EKI's for function aside from my Palm wood 12 and my Christmas commanders... the commanders cuz they R wicked. Okay, Im out of here again. Just had to set things straight.
Okay, so I would like to hear about that plane crash and thank you for your service. It must have been a wild ride. Also, thank you for some field use feedback. I appreciate that.
I guess I am just a little hurt :*( I bought all of my EKI's for function aside from my Palm wood 12 and my Christmas commanders... the commanders cuz they R wicked. Okay, Im out of here again. Just had to set things straight.
I think you're right; it's definitely a nice looking knife.
Of course, it doesn't hurt that it's a very functional, nice-looking knife, too.
The airplane was an air tanker, involved in a firefighting operation. I was flying at the time, and experienced an engine failure. Forced landing on a mountain side would be a be a better description than "crash," but it was a wild ride, and "crash" is easier to explain to everyone but the insurance people.
For them, it was an "incident with potential," and a "successful forced landing."
The Emerson I carried because it was my ticket to whatever wouldn't unbuckle, open, or move.
- Joined
- Jul 11, 2007
- Messages
- 849
Thanks for sharing, glad you had a knife at the time!
- Joined
- Apr 13, 2008
- Messages
- 287
there is an easier way to sort things out. How about comparing a EKI knife directly against another made in USA production folder with similar size and street price .
Let's say ZT 0200 against CQC13(because I've owned both).
Locking Machanism: Both are Liner locks
Blade Material: Both are 154CM
Blade Stock: CQC 3mm, ZT 4mm
Handle Material: Both are G10, ZT's G10 slabs are more contoured, 3D CNC machined
Liner Material: Emerson is half Ti half Stainless, ZT is full stainless, ZT's liners are thicker than EKI's
f/f: ZT0200 wins by a mile, hands down
Ergonomics: I think the CQC13 wins this one by a tight margin, they both feel great in the hand.
Structural Construction: I do feel the ZT is constructed more robust, with stronger pivot screw, thicker locking liner and compact pivot area design, but let's say it's an even
price: street price, CQC13-$180, ZT0200-$130-$140
So, being not as tough (strong), with less material and inferior f/f, why are EKI knives so much more expensive?
Edit: I geniunely think Mr. Emerson can and should do a better job either improving the quality of his products or pricing his products more resonably, or better allocate his production resources to lower costs. If i'm considered flaming, so be it. The "this is my product, accept it as is or go away" attitude that Mr. Emerson has as a businessman is damn ignorant.
Let's say ZT 0200 against CQC13(because I've owned both).
Locking Machanism: Both are Liner locks
Blade Material: Both are 154CM
Blade Stock: CQC 3mm, ZT 4mm
Handle Material: Both are G10, ZT's G10 slabs are more contoured, 3D CNC machined
Liner Material: Emerson is half Ti half Stainless, ZT is full stainless, ZT's liners are thicker than EKI's
f/f: ZT0200 wins by a mile, hands down
Ergonomics: I think the CQC13 wins this one by a tight margin, they both feel great in the hand.
Structural Construction: I do feel the ZT is constructed more robust, with stronger pivot screw, thicker locking liner and compact pivot area design, but let's say it's an even
price: street price, CQC13-$180, ZT0200-$130-$140
So, being not as tough (strong), with less material and inferior f/f, why are EKI knives so much more expensive?
Edit: I geniunely think Mr. Emerson can and should do a better job either improving the quality of his products or pricing his products more resonably, or better allocate his production resources to lower costs. If i'm considered flaming, so be it. The "this is my product, accept it as is or go away" attitude that Mr. Emerson has as a businessman is damn ignorant.
Last edited:
