Frame handled Feather.

Bruce Bump said:
Fred, You gotta watch these guys on this forum, they are not too shy about giving honest opinions of knives posted here. Its "their" forum so I suppose they have the right to. Most often makers post here to get a feel for the buying market and can learn a ton if they are not "thin skinned" and will pay attention.

My honest opinion as a maker is nice feather damascus and cool blade shape. I would like it even better with a guard of some type as this blade is a fighter blade.
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I don't know why anyone would not give their honest opinion, as we all learn from them. Anyone who is willing to accept praise from their knives posted here should be equally will to accept criticism and/or critique as long as it's given in a respectful and construction manner. No one learns from continuous 'at a boy' & 'high fives' for mediocre knives.
 
Nice looking feather damascus, and the copper really adds to the whole package - sweet!
 
Fred I love that Damascus and the grind is done with great skill !

Some day I will post up a knife on this forum. These guys do it like no other !
 
Lorien said:
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I regret having commented on this knife.

My understanding of this forum has been that when a maker posts pictures or their work, they are looking for feedback.

I made the mistake of assuming that feedback and dialogue were sought here, but it's been made clear to me that this was not the case and that the knife pictured was provided as a sharing of work only.

My apologies for ruffling feathers.
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It would be nice if there was some clear indication at this forum as to whether or not one should be prepared to accept critical comments when they post a knife here. I have seen too many folks get their backs up or get all defensive when someone posts something critical or even just less than glowing about one of their knives. This goes for both makers and collectors.

I have tried to explore this issue here many times with no resolution. Some folks feel like Kevin that if you post a knife here, it is fair game. But it is clear that others who post here definitely do NOT feel the same way.

Accordingly, I decided some time back to try to adhere to a policy wherein I will post only all positive comments or no comments at all on a knife posted here, unless the poster explicitly invites comments or feedback.
 
I will always share what I like about a knife, so I will share what I don't like as well. Just as I did in this thread.
If there's nothing I like, I will simply not post. I will often add a quantity of :thumbup: indicating how much I like a knife.
 
A comment to all who posted their views on this knife.

I enjoy reading all comments pro and con and anywhere in between. In the case of this particular knife, I new there would be praise for the blade itself; I must say it is one of my best efforts, I new their would be members who who thought the handle configuration was not appropriate for the blade and that a guard would have and should have been supplied. I wont go over my reasoning for this design, an explanation is not really called for.
I did not find a singe comment out of place or unexpected. I have a very singular style as a maker and with this style I expect there to be raised eye brows; if there were none I would consider my effort a failure.

Lorien, as I told you in my pm, I had no problem with the fact that you did not like the design of the handle; it was how you phrased your comments, I did take as an insult the comment that "I would do better next time, I'm sure" to me that is something to be said to a 7 or 8 year old child, when he colors outside the lines, not some thing to be said to a skilled maker with 18 years experience, a teacher having taught in numerous venues a second degree black belt teacher with 10 black belt students, I'm not blowing my horn, this is who I am and I do not warrant those comments. If you had just commented that you did not care for the handle design and tell me why you did not care for it my comments to you would have been in the same vane as I did with other negative comments as well as those more positive.
I am in the position where I make but few knives for sale and most of my work these days is experimental and against the grain of the excepted norm. I never joined the ABS, my reason, I have a hard time following and I have a hard time reproducing something that has been built thousands of times.
Above my work bench is the quote by Frank Zappa: "Without deviation from the norm progress is not possible.

I hope my comments here are taken in the manner which I present them. I hold no ill will against anyone I know. I respect you and your opinion; but I would never let such a comment slide without comment, in person or online.
I will post again when I complete something worth sharing and I hope you would look at what I have built and comment on it as well.

Thank you all for taking the time to look and thank you for your comments, Fred
 
I totally agree with you Fred, and I feel badly about how this went, although I am glad for our dialogue.

My comment was intended to be a little tongue in cheek. But it obviously did not have the desired effect, as I did not say what I meant in quite the right way. Instead, it came out as condescending and snide. And then I was embarrassed when you called me out on it and got defensive. Since then, I've come to understand that I've been an ass, and you have my heartfelt apologies.

I guess what I meant to say was that I'd love to see this lovely blade in partnership with a handle that jived with it. In a way, I was saddened by what I thought could be a really beautiful piece of work that was ruined, (imo) by the handle design, and that emotional response got in the way of my judgement in choosing my words. So, I concede that you were successful with this effort, as you stimulated an emotive response, which is somewhat of a goal when creating Art. Mediocrity, as you said, is to be avoided at all costs:thumbup:.

Lesson learned :)
 
Lorien,

This is one of the most sincere statements I have had the pleasure of reading and I thank you for posting.

If we had met in person this would have gone differently. Face to face, the conversation would have been much more personable and you could have made your points and I would have thanked you for same.
The internet, even though it offers great convenience, takes from us, nuance and visual cues that are so essential to understanding. I am a far better communicator in person, as I know you are.

Thank you again for your honesty; I enjoyed this discourse. I have learned something about you and I like what I've learned.

Regards, Fred
 
:thumbup:Fred
 
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